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I’m just going say it although the book of death/Shinigami’s powers is cool also the big idea of the gameplay;in a way is kinda useless mostly on the fact the culprit dies,i mean HOW ARE YOU GONNA GET A CLEAR TRUTH WITHOUT A CLEAR CONFESSION!!!,also it just made it worse now that there now a person mysteriously dies out of nowhere,but they managed to put it in storyline sooooooo
Yeah something to think about
I think maybe it has to do with since Shinigami is the God of Death, her power is going to have a connection over on death. But you bring up a good point that it isn’t exactly useful considering it makes exposing the criminals harder.
Until I remember in Chapter 0 after the first Mystery Labyrinth from a YouTube gameplay I watched, where Shinigami comments how Yuma is now free since the culprit is dead, which the YouTuber comments that wasn’t going to work because Zilch was meant to be dead from the start and they only ended up reaffirming that narrative the Peacekeepers were painting to begin with. And I was thinking to myself, ‘didn’t they already figured out that the Peacekeepers were in on the plan in the Mystery Labyrinth? So why did she think the Peacekeepers would let him go if they were planning to frame him anyway?’ And that led me to think really hard about this.
We know Shinigami has the flaws of lacking empathy and not understanding humans at times, since she is an immortal god. I think in her mind, since the culprit is gone, there would be no reason for the Peacekeepers to keep framing him. Plus, again thinking into Shinigami’s mind, I think she believed since the culprit was a murderer would mean they would probably kill more people in the future, so the real goal was to stop a growing threat from claiming more victims like before.
And the killing thing? I think it’s a way to deal the justice in the holder’s own hands, to off the culprits so they don’t keep harming people from the mysteries they made, or claiming anymore victims from their deeds. In Chapter 1, one of the culprit was a serial killer, who would have gone off to kill more people. And the other culprit could have technically become a serial killer himself since he admired the Nail Man so much. Plus, an innocent man was going to get framed and executed for the Nail Man’s crimes to keep up appearances, and seeing how the Priest was going along with the lie, basically implied he was okay letting an actual, innocent man die in his place. Then in Chapter 2, Kurumi gets framed for the crime, and since execution seems to be a thing, she could have been executed herself, all so the Peacekeepers can keep their lies and appearance in place.
Plus, we have seen that the Peacekeepers don’t necessarily care about justice unless it serves them (or the higher-ups like Yomi in this case). They are willing to cover up the mysteries to convenient themselves and get what they want. And considering they are the police force, therefore the handlers of justice in Kanai Ward, they are the only ones in power that can lock away the criminals in hand and bring justice. But because they are so corrupt and self-indulgent, they are more willing to let criminals go or turn a blind eye or fail to solve the case thoroughly. So the Book of Death is the only way to ensure not only are the criminals are properly dealt with, but also cut away the Mystery Labyrinths as well. Since Shinigami has noted that if the Mystery Labyrinth grew and remain, they would influence other people into becoming murderers or criminals that would create more Mystery Labyrinths as well. As it was theorized by Yakool-Foolio that Kanai Ward’s Ultimate Secret’s own Mystery Labyrinth is what most likely led to the city becoming more crime-filled and creating their own Mystery Labyrinths as well.
It’s also important to note that there are other corrupt officials out in the world like the Unified Government who wants to keep their own secrets hidden away to keep up appearances. So it wouldn’t be far-fetched if there were other corrupt forces like the Unified Government and the Peacekeepers who would keep things secrets for their own benefits. Plus, we learned in chapter five that Number One of the World Detective Organization that he is actually in charge of issuing criminals to be sent to the death penalties, as noted here by Shiut, so I think executions and death penalties are uncommon in the Master Detective Archives world. So it wouldn’t be such a big deal for criminals to just die, even if it is inhumane and cruel.
In conclusion, I think the Book of Death is really a tool used in order to bring about the end of the criminals that threatens peace for everybody and could potentially hurt people (people getting framed, the killers killing future victims, exploiting people, etc). Since there is the chance of corrupt police forces not willing to indulge justice as they should and will let the mysteries remain and therefore the criminals free, the Book of Death is a mean to make sure the criminals and mysteries are gone. It’s a morally grey story where it may not be morally right, but it is not morally wrong either with the circumstances at hand. I think that’s what the Book of Death’s intention are, and why Shinigami thinks the way she thinks.
Is it funny that you did well on drawing a character from a series you know and then when you draw your own characters is not really good compare to ones you draw from that series?
IIIIIIIIIII’m not sure how to answer that because I am not a drawing artist whatsoever.
But I do see where you are coming from and agree with you. Because it’s easy to write stories about characters from other series in fanfictions because there’s already been an establishment of characterization and the world they live in and their storylines and character arcs. We got the base we can work off of or build from.
But in original stories, you have to basically create these stuff all on your own. Create your own world. Create your own characters. Create your own storylines. Which can maybe or maybe not be as great as the stories you loved (I’m pretty sure it can be; it really falls on the person’s personal interests).
And even then, honestly, when it comes to writing fanfictions, you still have to worry about making sure the characterization is still accurate at least. And just hope people comment you enough that you did a good job doing so.
By: Joanna Haruki
It is only a matter of time
That all will be place upon the scale
To be judged for their sins
Wether be the hand of tyrants or the
Hand of god who rules upon death
It is only a matter of time
It is only a matter of time
For Everyone will sink,so make the most of that
Finale show
Of the final feast
Because for those sinners,that entertainment will
Soon come to an end
For when it rains
It is only a matter of time
It is only a matter of time
For All people will all be drowned
All will be dissolved
Into the waters
It is only a matter of time
It is only a matter of time
For The Herrscher of the rain
Will remain,weeping on thy throne
On thy Palace alone
For the ward it loves is all gone
For it fears came true
Came out of its own control
It is only a matter of time
It is only a matter of time
For Everyone to be drowned
For everyone to be dissolved
For everyone to be forever trapped
In this sea of mysteries and despair
Just curious, but what your thoughts and feelings of hanakou
I think hanakou is amazing, I love them so much it makes me look stupid! They are easily my favorite ship that doesn't involve Teru, Akane, or Aoi, and their view of each other is fascinating!!
People don't really pay attention to them and a lot about how Hanako impacts Kou's relationship with supernaturals and how Kou impacts Hanako's relationship with trust with hope, which both serve to sabotage each other, is lost.
I am too sleepy to properly gush about them, but as a tiny example, think of Mitsuba's introduction arc. Hanako would normally take care of Mitsuba himself, he believes there is no future for the dead after all, but he trusts Kou, Kou makes him have hope, so he let him deal with it in a more gentle way that goes against his usual beliefs.
That's what started one of Kou's main arcs: A decision Hanako made from respect for Kou's own beliefs. Which was only possible cause Kou went to Hanako for advice for exorcism in the first place.
I have an entire draft on them that I really need to finish and edit
I am well aware they aren't canon, but I'm still very sad Aidairo just... pushed them aside when there is still so much to explore.
I do agree that their relationship has been dicey for a while, and just because we breezed past some things in 96 doesn't actually mean all is resolved. This 'friendship' has always been tenuous, what with Hanako being a known kaii that has had conflict with the Minamoto in the past. Honestly... what Hanako and Kou had going on feels closer to a truce than real friendship, to me. An agreement to wait and see what happens, to... co-exist, in the meantime. You don't really get an impression that they even respect... one another... exactly... To Hanako, Kou might just seem like some goody two-shoes, ignorant kid in the world. To Kou, Hanako has a suspicious past and behaves rudely, carelessly. They try and get along... more for Nene's sake than anything else. But Nene is also a source of contention for them, as they squabble over her fate, again and again.
(Note: while Hanako doesn't directly comment on it, I think Kou swearing vengeance towards Tsuaksa in Ch 20 isn't exactly negligible either... lol. A yorishiro is a precious object containing strong memories from a mystery's life, and Tsukasa and Amane had a close, intense relationship up until death. Let's think of this as, Kou's first strike.)
Once Kou learns about Nene's life span situation during the Clock Keeper's arc, this kicks off their ongoing struggle over, who will save Nene? Kou is angry that Hanako withheld this information / Hanako sees it as not worth mentioning, since her fate isn't able to be altered. Kou swears he will fight to change it anyways. This is a challenge to Hanako's defeatism (good) but it also is ah, a sort of threat (uncontrollably.) that he will alter Nene's fate by his own means. Hanako, a possessive person, does not like this. But it must percolate for a while, before this becomes an issue. I'd say this is Kou's second strike.
It's not a serious offense, but I also think it's like. "Lol" that, post-Hell of Mirrors + during Tanabata, Hanako is pouting about Nene's attention towards Kou. He's sulking about how he's on her mind. By the time Picture Perfect rolls around, it feels like he's... finally reaching the end of his patience with this all! It's an undercurrent throughout the chapters... Amane seeming frustrated as he observes Nene seek solace in Kou. And Kou throws a wrench in all of Amane's shmoozing and attempts to get Nene to accept this fake reality!
To me... it feels like Amane is really struggling with how he's trying to, roleplay out this fantasy of being Nene's Normal Fellow Classmate... Stargaze on the rooftop, wax poetics... Impress upon her his thoughts about stars, space... but Kou is in the way! And, beyond this little 'roleplay', Amane is trying to trap her in this painting, to save her life (before Kou can)... and Kou is getting in the way-!!
He can't keep his cool about this... Looking disdainful, resentful, tired. He finds Kou's heroisms stupid, and pointless... He thinks his grand declarations of all he can do are lousy, spoken out of ignorance. A bunch of hot air, with no follow through. All these promises of what he is going to provide for her... It must simultaneously make Amane want to roll his eyes (how, annoying, how empty and weak these promises are!) and yet also bare his teeth (the possessive, jealous brain cannot stand even the mere thought of it...)
This is it... Three strikes and you're out. These panels are like, the nail on the coffin, to me. There is no friendship here... We're not friends. We can't be friends.
We are in competition. And, it remains to be the case, as Kou continuously makes plans to save Nene's lifespan, like his plans to take Hakubo's seat as No. 6. Even ah, in Ch 97, we get this bit...
Reaffirming that, Kou is still seeking to extend Nene's life, and is willing to exorcise Hanako, if push came to shove. I suppose it's a mutual sense of distrust, at this point. And the reason there's no talking about is because they don't want to rock the boat and make things harder for Nene again. After the Severance, I think everyone would like to look the other way, and let things go 'back to normal'... Even if they aren't / even if they can't.
Hum hum... but as for the upcoming chapter...There's so much going on with this new arc being built up, I feel like this is storybeat is kind of, low priority-? It doesn't need to be addressed right now, I don't think.
We're juggling things between the school festival (past and present), the large clock in the theatre, Hanako's missing memories, past Tsukasa's invitation to Nene, the? hand? that alluded to Nene that some accident happening in the past? And Natsuhiko + Akane possibly teaming up, the broadcast club going for No. 1's yorishiro... So much could happen next. I also assume that if Kou makes a proper appearance in the next chapter, it would just be to continue his ongoing issue with Mitsuba, and maybe his promise to share the burden with Teru. Much to do, much to get to... Hanako isn't even very focused right now, as he is busy dwelling on his past...
Also, Nene and Mitsuba are closer, and more friendly with one another, so the tone of the last chapter suits them. This, like, girl talk almost (lol?) sitting and reflecting about their relationship. I do not... think... Kou and Hanako are able to parallel such an interaction... I don't think they really have drawn out conversations like this... Really, I don't think they'd even want to talk about their respective feelings for Nene/Mitsuba at one another-? They're struggling to even acknowledge these feelings to themselves.
When we do address this conflict between them, I think it'll be when... they naturally wind up trying to do conflicting things. If Kou tries to make a move to extend Nene's life, it won't go unopposed, and if Hanako does some crazy shit again, well. Kou promised to be a cop with his cop brother so that will create problems. We must simply wait and see.
Why does Amane choose his name hanako, I understand yako choosing misaki but why hanako of all things, why the specific spelling in kanji that means flower kid
Ooh, you know, incidentally, I've been dwelling on the name "Hanako" lately...
The kanji (花子) is actually pretty typical, for "Hanako"... Let's say, it's one of the most classic spelling of this name? Building off of that, the myth of "Hanako-san of the bathroom" (トイレの花子さん) is actually one that has existed in Japan for years, and in it, the name is commonly spelled like that. From a writing perspective, Iro-sensei is just maintaining the ah, iconography of the name, I suppose?
I've talked before in a previous ask about how the "Jibaku" in the title is evoking several things at once. Well, I think Iro-sensei is the sort that likes everything to feel multilayered, so even the usage of "Hanako-kun" is conveying something very particular. Hanako is a very feminine name (as flower names commonly are; think of names like Daisy or Rose) — so appending -kun to it is a little bit strange... My wife and I have joked, it's sort of like, if the story was starring Bloody Mary… but the twist is that Mary is a boy, and we call him, Little Lad Mary, or something… Lol. This is one of those things western fandom might be missing out on, due to culture discrepancies. We read Hanako, and it perhaps doesn't stand out next to Natsuhiko as a very girly name. To the point where I don't really blame anyone for not keying into it; it's not so intuitive for us.
I mean, I myself have had to really internalize what the experience of reading the title could be like, for a native speaker. You're looking at Hanako-kun on the title, and then seeing this spooky cursed boy sitting on a toilet. And you're like "-? ? .. ?? Hanako... toilet ghost, but boy-? And, self bondage???" (lol) There's just ah, a different first impression when picking up volume 1, I think.
Now, to get into the in-world reasons for why Amane uses Hanako... Well. The thing is, we haven't actually gotten a very direct explanation on what Amane feels about the name. Feels quite shrouded in mystery still... perhaps, it's not something we'll know the truth of until we are able to learn about what Amane went through that made him become a mystery in the first place. For now, all we can do is infer...
Logically, we can say the name Hanako comes from the rumor of "Hanako-san", which is something that could have existed before Amane even died. The mysteries can be swapped out by other individuals, as we see with Mitsuba, who becomes the new "Hell of Mirrors". It seems the rumor itself doesn't suddenly change, despite Mitsuba being a wholly different person. And, beyond that, perhaps there was a different entity before that tengu that was the Hell of Mirrors... etc. So, a possible explanation is that the name Hanako was one that Amane inherited once he became No. 7.
Though, we do have examples of mysteries with titles that allude to their specific circumstance... such as the Misaki Stairs and Shijima-san of the Art Room. Questions that arise from this are: If a kaii replaced Yako or Shijima, would the rumor stay the same? What were the rumors for No. 2 and No. 4 before theirs existed? Were there any at all...? I suppose, we don't know how long there have been 7 mysteries guarding the school. In any case... I wouldn't totally rule out the possibility that Amane himself is the origin of the Hanako-san rumor. For whatever reason, his actions in the past might have created Hanako-san. Shijima-san's rumor is a product of misinformation about Mei's death, so it might not have been Amane's choice how people perceived certain events.
I try and keep my mind open to the possibility, at least... though, if you want my personal opinion, I'm leaning more towards the former. I assume that Amane just inherited the role of No. 7, and the rumor associated with it was Hanako-san. The reason is... before meeting Nene, I'm not sure who else would even be calling him Hanako-? The mysteries are relatively distant from one another, and typically refer to one another by their numbers. I would say Tscuhigomori is the mystery that knows Amane the most personally, and deep down, I think Tsuchigomori simply sees Amane as... Yugi Amane. To Tsuchigomori, Amane is the same as when he knew him in life; he's been frozen in place here, never moving on. Tsukasa meanwhile knew Amane best, ostensibly, and was close with him through most of his life... and only ever calls him Amane.
I'm of the belief that Amane himself, does not closely identify with the name Hanako, before meeting Nene. I think it was a business name... I think it was even, kinda funny, like, Lol, girl's name... sure. He's amicable to wearing thigh highs and letting Nene dress up his hair, nor does he really fret about being gender-swapped, so it's not like having a "girl's name" would bother him much. It must feel very inconsequential...? He's only being regarded as Hanako-san on the rare occasion a soon-to-be-dead student summons him. Otherwise, he's Nanaban-sama to his co-workers... and internally, I think he's Amane... er, in a compulsive way-? Like, he can't control this remnant of his past life... Tricky, since there is a bit of compartmentalization happening; I do think Amane thinks of "Yugi Amane" as having died and no longer "really" existing beyond that death... What he is now, is something different and unrecognizable (... or, so he thinks.) At that point of dehumanization, he probably doesn't regard his current self with any name. Maybe he is just, a kaii, a mononoke, a murderer... etc.
Upon befriending Nene... I think that Amane wasn't taking their relationship so seriously. Her referring to him as Hanako-kun was kind of cute, funny, novel. He WAS obfuscating his identity, after all, so maybe it was ideal for her to see him this way. (Amane himself wouldn't have even let Nene know he killed someone in the past, let alone his real name...) So, performing as Hanako became something he does specifically for Nene's sake. This comes packaged with representing the mysteries as more close than they are, his job as more heroic than it really is, etc. I would say at this point, Amane starts to imagine a divide between Amane, living boy, and Hanako, the ghost that came after.
However, over time, the identity of Hanako-kun became more sentimental than Amane would ever have chosen. This was never supposed to be... more than, a flimsy front, a mask he wears, your silly bathroom ghost friend. That's why he's confused in Picture Perfect, with Nene's insistence that Amane-kun is the same as Hanako-kun. These should be separate things — Amane shouldn't be the same as Hanako! But... of course, they are, because he's the same as ever...
Haha, it's all kind of convoluted, but I like how much it makes one reflect on identity... Whether you personally identify with something or not, the urge to split yourself up, but also the way that you're always... yourself, even after things change... *wiggles fingers* Pretty cool, right? Often in posts, I'm kind of wrestling with how to refer to Amane, and how to keep things consistent enough to not be suuuper confusing... but it's hard! The names Amane and Hanako can be useful in tandem. It's such a Vibes thing, at times.
I typically default to Amane when referring to him as... the character, the entity of Amane, across many worlds/timelines. The entire history of the character, is "Amane" to me. Whereas I think of Hanako as more specifically encompassing the time he's spent with Nene! It's really Nene that has made Hanako more than just a title... though deep down, ig the real endgame of this would be regarding him as Amane...? [personal blatherings here...] Anyhoo...
We're surely due for more information on this topic someday. My wife has even mused on why the name Hanako is used for him... It's something to really contemplate-!!
Here your parfait Hanako
Hope you enjoy it
I wouldn’t shut up if the picture perfect conflict was addressed, my insanity would be noticeable, but I have no hope for chap 103. You can clearly see where the narrative focus is: It's all about hananene, mitsukou, and Hanako/Amane backstory.
So if Aidairo does make them talk, I feel like it would just be used as a device to further set up mitsukou and hananene, instead of their own moment.
This hypothetical talk does have the potential for a really good conversation though! Kou knows Nene and Hanako like each other, and his view is pessimistic in an intimate way since he is close to them both. It would also open a door for us to get more details on how Hanako views Mitsuba, since it isn't clear at the moment (he seems to feel mostly neutral/negative about him? Hanako has only been shown to care about how Mitsuba's suffering affect Kou, never Mitsuba'S own struggles and it makes me curious)
The only time I can possibly imagine them bringing focus to hanakou conflict is near the end of the manga, when we get close to the moment Kou will exorcise Hanako, which have been consistently built up to.
It would be a very strange choice if Aidairo doesn’t give us a hanako and kou centered arc when we get close to this point, even if just a small 1 to 2 chapters arc, since this has been set up since even before Mitsuba intro, or hell, Tsukasa’s intro in the manga and have the potential to be a very impactful/symbolic moment for both characters.
My actual hope for chapter 103 is predictable as hell though, I want them to show how Akane and Natsuhiko's talk went, please I want to see them.
but I will be genuinely happy to get any Akane, Aoi, or Teru panel.
I am 50/50. I'm not entirely sure. It seems that Amane could or knew what was going on at school honestly it would be really good if it turned out that Amane was the clock keepers… they were like Tsukasa, both twins with supernatural ties. But of course there's a "but" and I'm honestly not sure if he actually was.
I really like the PP arc and I really liked how Amane and Akane are friends with each other that would be cool considering Akane says all supernaturals are "evil" he has bad memories and was tricked by no.1 so I'm not surprised by his opinion.
I just don't think it's in the omen arc will be happaned. Hyuuga wants to form a temporary alliance with Akane, either Akane will be used or he will see through Hyuuga's tricks. I don't know if it's possible for them to be friends, I doubt it, maybe allies in one thing, but not friends.
are you referring to my husband's blog, @7ban-sama? we aren't the same person! We're similar, but that's just from being unGodly close for 6 years (:
not all kaii are evil; Hanako specifically is referred to as 'mononoke' or, a destructive, vengeful, or otherwise misery-causing cursed force ... for lack of a better term, an 'evil energy'. However, when using his joudai, he is no longer 'a mononoke', as he is blessed by God. HOWEVER however, every mystery is being lent the power of God, and seems to qualify as one in their boundaries.
Plenty of kaii seem neutral or passive. The Minamoto clan simply believe in profiling and reducing risk by not distinguishing between them. To Minamoto, all kaii are evil, yes. From kaii to kaii, I think Hanako being a Mononoke is distinct.... and I think in Hanako's own psyche, he identifies as a Mononoke.
I think kaii becoming kami is a major aspect of JSHK; the mysteries are 'appointed' by someone in a position of power, and are being granted special attributes through that process. The jurisdiction/control they have over their space, and the creation of their sanctum, is a Godly ability.
Teru refers to the mysteries in a Godlike manner. Personally, I believe the original Well-God's power is being siphoned and distributed to the mysteries, who become Gods, though not as powerful as the original God composed of all 7's abilities. All the mysteries are Kami-brought-to-Godhood, then, while they remain mysteries.
I would say that Tsukasa went from human to kami in canon, as far as we've observed. We don't know what journey Hanako made, which made him specifically a mononoke...
It seems as if perhaps Sakura can appoint/dispel mysteries, (previously?)... She may be a (holy, sanctified?) being in charge of the system of the school. Tsukasa meanwhile could appoint Mitsuba as a mystery; effectively turning him from a (weak) kaii into one of the school's minor kami. So, Tsukasa has the ability to grant Kami power unto a kaii.
People have theorized that amane was one of previous clock keepers of the present( I understand but a bit of a stretch) and now I can’t help but imagine both of them meeting each other 50 years ago because of the unstable time in the school. They seem like friends in the PP arc, I want to imagine them to have something in reality in the Omen arc.
What do you think?
I would love if Akane meet Amane in the Omens arc! I think would be very interesting to see them interacting but I personally can't see them becoming friends.
We know Hanako wants to be his friend.
As you mentioned, they were friends in picture perfect, where Hanako played the role of 'Amane', but Mei's world isn't based on reality, it was based on the things Hanako wants: Hanako stops being shorter than Nene, he gets to be Nene's classmate, and is so popular even Aoi fangirls about him! (popular boy = Nene's type to Hanako)
So his friendship with Akane is also wishful thinking:
It checks out with how happy Hanako is to interact with the real Akane, no matter how cold he acts.
We could assume Amane would feel the same about Akane as Hanako does, and crave to be his friend, but I doubt it. Or at least, I can't see him liking Akane as much as Hanako does.
One of the main reasons Hanako is so fond of Akane is because of the serious way Akane threat his crime: They both believe murder is something unforgivable and impossible to ‘atone’ for. Hanako may have gotten hurt to have someone so confidently solidifying his personal belief that he is a piece of shit (Hanako hates himself so much is insane) but he respects and admires Akane’s attitude.
Regardless of whatever is going on with Amane, he did not kill anyone (yet), so he can’t have this connection with Akane. While Akane can’t apply the “you’re a supernatural you don’t value people” mindset that makes it impossible for him to be buddies with Hanako (especially after all the times Hanako put Aoi in danger), I doubt he would forget that Amane was the one that killed Tsukasa.
Dead or alive, a murderer is a murderer and Amane’s future is one that is set in stone. Akane will already have a negative bias against him since he looks so much like Hanako, and it doesn’t take a genius to realize Amane is a human Hanako. As for Amane... To him, Akane is just a stranger that doesn’t seem very fond of him.
Everything would mostly depend on the circumstances of how they met, the stakes or lack of and such, but whatever relationship they form, it likely wouldn’t be very friendly. At least not at first. Even if I would adore a 'enemies to buddies' arc with them!
Regardless of how well or badly they hit off, it would be delightful if Aidairo made them interact! :D
Do you think he could lying or maybe not but I still have hope that the creators know what they’re doing in the story,this could be to throw us out or the book are not affected to the time change nene has been doing (not on purpose) think about it the books are records,they store knowledge to people activities in this school, you could sync the accurate time on a clock by turning the hands but you can’t change a record with out redoing it entirely (or it can on it own and tsuchigomori only look at it once cause he is so sure it hasn’t changed) thinking of reference as this
In short he erased himself the story was changed but still a similar fate and he still alive just doesn’t remember his past existence( I don’t know why I’m comparing a game to TBHK) the book could have changed but it was too late since Amane’s fate already happened and all the books are now destroyed and we can no longer look further to them,I could be and I’m just rambling, all in my head but I’m sure the omen arc or even the final arcs could explain the truth of what going on and what happened and getting answers about it from the creators themself.
That all I have to say
Thanks for reading
There is a repetitive aspect to manga. The events that took place seem to have been forgotten. One of the latest examples. Amane and yashiro in chapter 96 looked like they forgot about their romantic relationship and it was reminded in chapter 101. I think that such forgetting is carried out deliberately by the authors. It made me think back to Tsuchigomori and Amane and his altered future.
Tsuchigomori knew the students' secrets. It was enough that he read them as it was with Yashiro when she missed the truth about her secrets. Tsuchigmori knows the future, knows about events.
Tsuchigomori looked into his book and knew what the future had and he was sure that it would come true, he did not expect that Amane would choose a different path that was destined for him.
Tsuchigomori needs to see what happened in his life and why he ended up like this because his future has been changed so his events in the book as well.
Amane knows that Tsuchigomori knows everything, so he forced Tsuchigomori to be silent. Tsuchigomori said as much as he could, more than he said himself
It seems that what happened in these chapters was "forgotten" because yashiro got what she wanted Amane's true identity and a piece of his past, and that's enough, apparently.
When will the aggression/abuse end
She actually mentions a scene from chapter 86. It's not a new scene and I know she wants to confess her feelings properly. She just didn't do anything that I could complain about in this chapter.
As for her aggression, she will be aggressive towards him because AidaIro says "the more you love someone, the more you hurt someone" But that's their rule in this manga. As for Amane, I'm really not going to tolerate it, but I noticed a certain change in her in the right direction,I wonder what she'll do next, I hope she stops being aggressive, ok I know it's just dreams. But there's a chance nene will finally stop beating him.
It's not like I decided not to give her a chance. I gave her a chance and in this chapter I actually noticed something positive, but knowing her.she can spoil it, so I'm careful.
I'm a person who won't fall for her tears and suffering, so yashiro has a hard time with me.
Chapter 100 was a bomb 💣 on mitsuba and kou but chapter 101 was a Amane nuclear explosion 💥
Was chapter 100 the bomb? Not for me. There was nothing to shock me. As for Amane, yes, it was a real explosion. I didn't expect something like this. I wish AidaIro would now give a backstory from Amane's perspective on how it was with Tsukasa, but I think AidaIro will give a memory for Amane of that particular day and what he really forgot. I really want the whole backstory twins already.
Bitter bunny hanako-kun awww
Today is officially Sakura day
I wonder what would the inner most reach boundary be for hanako since we already seen no. 2,3,5, and even 6
There are people also saying that the bathroom is not his real boundary and he just decided to hunt there cause of tsukasa but we all know that is probably not the case so what would the place even look or be if we were to go deeper to amane’s boundary?
Any thoughts
The Amane boundary was seen at the beginning (I think) is the boardcast room, and I think this is the deepest part of it
the bathroom is boundary belong to Hanako-san. Amane's HANAKO-SAN.This is his role to fulfill.
He said at the beginning that each of the seven mysteries are strongest in their own territory - for Amane as Hanako, it's a toilet, which he said. This is complete bs.
It's also obvious because it's "Hanako-san from the toilet" so I don't understand this statement which is really untrue.
Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac
This is a the last part
Thank for making it this far
Unless in this cover these are carnations
In fact carnations also happen to symbolize in love as well
Same also goes to primroses
And there you have it, things that shows hanako is related to his Chinese zodiac The Wood Goat
Like I said I did this for fun but, I love to hear your thoughts and opinions on it since this is my first own TBHK post
Pls go through part 1 and part 2 if you haven’t
And thank you for reading this 😊
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac
The wood goat
Ok here is part 2
Although we don’t know Hanako personal relationship with shijima mei of the art room,well other than wanting her to finish the painting.
He does hate the power of No.4 and her perfect world itself
so happens that the first boundary they went is no.2
And as we all know he is the 7th mystery
In his design in his color scheme he wore a black school uniform and has a redish line at the bottom of the uniform as well on his hat and seal, along with his tsueshiro both being white,one that also red while the other is blue.
See you soon in the last part
Pls see part 1 if you haven’t
Signs that shows Hanako Being Related To His
Chinese zodiac sign
I posted that hanako/Amane yugi zodiac in China was a Wood Goat and today I put in analysis on it
Keep in mind I’m doing this for fun and just happen to peak my interest, I’m not really good in explanation so the images will do most of the talking. This is part 1 by the way
I mean that kinda true I guess
See you soon in part 2
Do you strike Akane as a person that both values and treasures life?
What do you think hanako views on life?
Same with kou, nene and even Teru
Akane I have no idea he does it. I think he only values and treasures Aoi's life.
I think as Amane he underestimated life, he decided to shorten his and Tsukasa's lives for some reason. I think that as Hanako it changed, he started to appreciate life and he knows how important human life is. He was helping Aoi and he wants to save Nene because he wants her to live and this is proof that he really appreciates life. He knows that life is precious. He also knows that he took his brother's life and his own, so if he can try to save someone... he will. Amane also wanted "Things to stay like this forever" knowing that was impossible. Life as a ghost is also life, and he didn't want to leave Yashiro and Kou.
Kou, I think he knows that...he lost his mother and friend and wouldn't want to lose anyone else...so I think he appreciates life.
Teru think that he only values his loved ones life and Aoi because he likes her. Sure, he helps people, but as he said himself, it didn't come naturally to him. That's why I think he values and treasures more the lives of the people he loves.
Yashiro.. I don't know and I don't care about her and I don't want to try to analyze her character... I don't have a positive opinion about her either, so I'd be biased, and I wouldn't want that. That's why I won't talk about her.
Sure! Hanako have too much to work with, since he is the main character, so I’ll focus on the thing I love the most about him: His inexperience when it comes to caring about others.
Hanako put up thick walls between himself and his peers, rarely connects to others, be they humans or supernaturals.
Helping students and keeping them safe is his duty, his punishment to atone, not something he personally wants, his own personal view is far more ‘cold’, Amane’s empathy was destroyed after he became a supernatural, beaten down after sixty years of being dead.
What he tells Kou here is true.
He has shown time and time again, people’s life isn’t particularly important to him, he’ll exchange one life for another without guilt for the person he doomed because of personal preference, and had destroyed yorishiros since the start of the manga, knowing of the danger of doing so, for his own gains.
Before the manga story starts, Hanako is alone.
He plays with the other mysteries but he doesn’t consider anyone his friend. He keeps a distance even from Tsuchigamori, unaware Amane’s moon rock is his old teacher’s yorishiro and only seemingly not talking to his old teacher much, only looking for him when he needs Tsuchigomori for something.
He is apathetic to practically everything, drowning in his own misery: Tsukasa is the only one that can break him out of his apathetic state, and he is the one Hanako keeps running away from. Hanako is the titular character but we never saw his boundary because he can’t face Tsukasa, his yorishiro, finding it much easier to hide and spend his afterlife in the bathroom instead.
Tsukasa was important to Amane, and while he is important to Hanako as well, Tsukasa is rarely perceived his brother, his presence is mostly treated as the personification of Hanako’s guilt. Hanako hasn’t tried to understand Tsukasa’s feelings or expressed worry about his well-being: out of all his comflicting emotions, his priority is usually to look away.
Hanako has spent a lot of his afterlife in this limbo of running away and not connecting with anyone, but eventually, he met two people he got very attached to: Kou and Nene.
He loves them a lot, much more than he loves himself.
He will try his very best to face Tsukasa, face the embodiment of the trauma he has been running away from for decades, to keep them safe.
Most of the time, Hanako fails: he is too terrified to act, he gets panicked or paralyzed, trapped in the past.
He can’t help when Tsukasa is his oponent.
Even outside his past, there are still things Hanako can’t help with.
The guilt and panic and pain of having no use for someone he wants to help hurt, but Hanako doesn’t run away from this pain.
He tries to help anyways, to reach out as best he can.
And Kou’s trouble linger in his mind, when the kid gets depressed again, Hanako will try to help him again.
He want Kou to feel better.
He may have said “He is kind of like you, isn’t he, No.2?” but he doesn’t care about Yako or her attachment to Misaki, his attention is on Kou the second he finish his request: interested in his reaction, not her feelings.
He is selfish though, he cares about their feelings, but he mostly listens to his own, which is most obvious to see with Nene.
In the clock keepers arc he mentioned he kept Nene’s lifespan secret because he wants her to live her best life in blissful ignorance, but he doesn’t make her the priority, he makes himself: He is aware she hates toilet duty, no one enjoys being forced to waste their evenings cleaning bathroom, but he likes it.
And he rarely enjoys things, so he can’t let go of it. He can’t sacrifice this hint of joy for the sake of Nene living “her best life”
He adores spending time with her, and since he has very little self-worth, he is convinced she would never spend time with him by her own volition, he needs to use the cleaning duty as an excuse.
Is why he gets so happy when she calls him a friend.
This love, this care, is something Hanako really wants from her.
But is also something Hanako doesn’t think he deserves.
He can get frustrated by how much they love him, by how distorted their view is, as if he is a ‘good ghost’. He loves their otimist, and he get annoyed by them, he loves them but he is constantly looking down at them for it. He loves them but he hates himself.
So he sabotage himself.
He tells Kou and Nene point blank his bad traits “I am dead already. I don’t care if someone dies or not. ” “I killed someone and you shouldn’t excuse it” “I am selfish, I care about you Nene, and not your best friend.” are things he only tell Nene and Kou, as if he was screaming. “I am not a good ghost” even if he will never tell them “Leave me alone, stop visiting me.”
Hanako is constantly fighting between clinging to what he loves, regardless of how much his behavior hurt them, and telling himself he should want them away from him.
Both of his attempts to save Nene involved being away from her, either trapping her in picture-perfect until she forgot about him, or exchanging Aoi’s lifespan with Nene’s, saving her but making it so he can’t see her again, and she would eventually forget about him.
The more Hanako’s love for Nene grow the bigger the lengths he is willing to go for her, even if at it core, his love remains selfish, he knew Nene wouldn’t be happy with his solutions, but he doesn’t care, cause she will live, and she will live by his own hands.
He acts like doesn’t know why he does this a lot of times:
And to some degree, he truly doesn’t know.
Hanako has many mental blocks when it comes to admitting vulnerability, even to himself. He looks anguished when he confesses to Nene that he wants her to live.
Which is a purely Hanako wish.
Hanako never had a wish, not outside his “wish” to atone’, which he constantly refears to as punishment, not something he personally want, just something he deserves.
Even as Amane he had gave up on his wish.
So wishing for Nene to live is a very new feeling.
This wish makes him go against his duties as No.7 and his quest to ‘repent’, but he can’t even care because he really wants her to live. And is not like going against “god’s will” is what trouble him, since he destroys yorishiros the second he got the chance.
He can no longer deny he is smitten with her.
We can see this all consuming care with Kou too, even if it is more subtle it’s still very present, and just as impactful in his afterlife.
Nene is someone he loves but very rarely rely on, she is his special someone, he’ll go above and beyond to do what he believe is best for her, ask anyone and even if they disapprove of his actions, they can’t deny he is clingy, always ready to rescue her.
His view on Kou is different, he is someone he ask to fight and help. Is not that he doesn’t trust Nene, exactly, but he had the “I’ll keep you in the dark mentality” from the secon they met, while he never planed on treasuring Kou, he just saw enough potential, or use, in this exorcist kid, to occasionally rely on him.
Hanako plans for Kou only involved a vague “he can exorcise me later” idea, but he ends up genuinely caring about Kou after he stand up for him agaist Teru the young exorcist arc.
It’s no longer just “this boy is so funny, and I can both make fun of him and use him”, now Kou is his friend.
Just compare how he treats Kou when he is in at Yako’s boundary, and in Hell of Mirrors.
He has gotten the habit to be honest with Kou, he is always counting on him on little things when they are together, and it hurts so bad when Kou fail, because Hanako trusts him, and he hasn’t trusted someone in such a personal way in 60 years.
Hanako is more comfortable hating himself them his friends, so he usually doesn’t let his dissapointment in Kou linger. Focusing most of his negative thoughts on himself.
Kou isn’t infallible, but he is the one Hanako trusts the most.
Hanako used to trust Kou almost blindly, holding on to the feeling, but once he is let down, he gets so hurt, he resents the feeling.
He is a contradictory character, cause it feels like he hate Kou at times, but he can’t stop caring about him. He only got attached to two people, he can’t pretend Nene or Kou “aren’t important”
He will try to be logical all he wants but his emotions speak louder than his logic.
We know Hanako lingered in Mei’s fake world because his deepest wish is to be human with Nene. So even though it is a big red flag for Nene to see Hanako as her classmate Amane, the supernatural couldn’t resist playing pretend.
Just for a bit, just for a taste of a normal life with her.
He is consistently selfish, and irrational when it comes to Nene. And while behavior with Kou is less and frenzied than how he act with Nene, he still deeply affected by his emotions
Kou can’t be discarded, he is important in his wish, the other half of his reason to want to be alive after years of just accepting his death.
Even may have made up his mind about not going anywhere, he still refuse to follow everyone to Mei’s exit, to the moon, but he wants Kou and Nene to always come to him.
Cause even thought Yashiro was his focus, an Mitsuba took most of Kou’s time, Hanako does make it very clear he want Kou there too. He even try to knock Kou out like he did with Nene the second he notices Mitsuba failed and realize Kou want to run away.
He risked Kou being in this world, indulged Mitsuba in his dream to be human and live a normal school life by the side of friends, which is a wish Hanako has shown to actively disapprove of in hell of mirrors (and is also same wish as the one Hanako have expressed in this arc), because Kou is part of his wish.
His motives for wanting to trap Kou until he lose his memories are unclear but his anger towards Kou for giving him hope after years of nothing only to realize his hope is false is all over picture perfect.
And Hanako is a coward, he discount his anger on Mitsuba, doesn’t explain anything, take Nene, and leave Kou confused.
Hanako only loses his patience and tell how he feels when Kou is in his way, and Hanako needs to beat him if he wants Nene to stay. The one thing that he’ll always prioritize above all else is Nene after all.
There is a certain determination to only focus on Nene after picture-perfect, not take Kou as seriously.
And what kills me is that Hanako’s attempts to distance himself are very half-hearted.
It fails.
No matter how real his anger, his care is just as real, if not more so. He is still eager to play fight with Kou and spend time with him. Their overall dynamic isn’t very affected.
Is always “Nene” and “Kou” and “everyone else”. Even when Kou isn’t in the scene, Hanako thinks of him.
There is this idea Kou is important, an implied “If I can’t save Nene, Kou will be the one to save her”, even with all the reasons and proof he has that Kou can’t do something as big as alter her fate, part of him still believe Kou can do it. Is a part of him that is illogical and Hanako hates it, and doesn’t want to deal with it.
So he focus on Nene’s lifespan, he became obsessed with it.
He has always been possessive of Nene. In any chapter they are together he is touchy and flirty and so openly attached to her he is insane.
He knows he is in love.
He also knows he is the ghost of a dead killed and feels like Nene deserves better than what he has to offer, but he can’t let her go.
He knows he is a bad person and feel like Nene deserves better but he can’t let her go. Even when he is determined to grant her wish, to make a ‘no turn back’ decision, his determination crumbles the second they are face to face, his logic dies and he is just… Happy to see her again.
Even if he knows his plans failed, even if he knows she will die, he just… like seeing her.
His love is openly selfish and doomed to not last, which is something he understands and doesn’t know how to deal with, but just like he can’t force himself to truly hate Kou and stop believing in him, he also can’t force himself to stop loving Nene and desperately trying to find ways to make her live.
He is a mess.
This is so cruel but at the same time I can’t help but laugh for stupidity
Yashiro Nene-san is not aggressive, she doesn't use violence towards to anyone it's only good soul with good caring heart for everyone...
Everyone... She didn't hit anyone....
She isn't........oh wait..........
wait..........
Abuse girl-friend and the most imprtant nene-chan's boy-friend beater ,she is Nene's abuse girl-friend!! She likes to beat up "her love"
it's hurts him but she doesn't care
Nene-chan's so bully and abuser
but it's okay cause have right to be "mad" at him and his jokes,she is sooo right
welll NOT
bully,brutal and abuse girl-friend Yashiro-san
PLS LET HER REALIZE SHE CAN’T SAVE ANYONE
Yes... I saw this art from AidaIro. I hope someday she understands that not everyone can save. Personally, I feel sorry for Nene in this scene, only in this scene.It 100% traumatized her.Which makes sense because she had kept it quiet when Amane asked. Maybe now something will start to dawn on her and she understands him a little. I guess.
Thank you 😊
@scar-eyejolteon14 I see you didn't understand... it's about the similarities. Sumire and no.6 have romantic feelings for each other. Amane and Tsukasa share a family type of love. 6/Sumire ... Amane/Tsukasa, share the feeling of love. The love of the first pair is in a romantic light, the scond pair in a brotherly way light.
There is no such thing as "manipulation" in there. no side is "manipulating" the other. Tsukasa (Amane's yorishiro) is asking him to destroy him, becuase he is the yorishiro. In addetion to asking for it to be done 'right', unlike the first time. It's the same way as 6/Sumire. Amane as No.7 can destroy his yorishiro (Tsukasa) like it happened with 6 and Sumire.
Tsukasa and Sumire asked to be destroyed by No.7/No.6. And both No.7 and No.6 are 'happy' to do it for those they love. They are happy to go to the depth of Hell for them
Sumire didn't mind being eaten by her lover no.6. Tsukasa doesn't mind being killed by Amane again. Amane and Hakubo live in a curse to hurt those they love a second time, it's their hell because they don't want to, but they are forced, it's their hell and curse to kill the people they love again.
There is no toxicity here, just a comparison of two situations that share similarities with the light of romantic love and brotherly love.
It could be a possibility that no6 and his yorishiro could also be a foreshadowing.
Can’t help of looking at this as manipulation even though it’s not cause amane is smart.
But can’t help also seeing this as obsession even though it not because it is seen that tsukasa truly loves amane
It’s really not toxic is definitely not
Right?
Cause it feels like it, it gives this vibe i sense
Yet I know it’s not
I don’t understand 😞
"👀🔪"
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So, are these 2 going down the same path as 6 and his yorishiro? Hmm...
I don’t know if you noticed but I’m not that smart
What your thoughts on TBHK pilot
I really like the pilot version. Amane is so cute there too! I even like Nene a lot and I really want this version of Nene than in the original. The only thing that hurts me is that Amane hates herself and it shows so much in this version.
Amane's perfection!!!! HE'S PERFECT in every panels and these are my the most favorite
JUST HIM
HIM
Amane is the best in pilot and original story
The pilot version has its place in the original story. For example, Amane vs Kou on the roof, there are references(of course with big changes). The only thing I'm glad they didn't add is "strike" every time Amane decides to withdraw a wish.
She?
But amane a boy right?
Unless you mistyped
What your thoughts on TBHK pilot
I really like the pilot version. Amane is so cute there too! I even like Nene a lot and I really want this version of Nene than in the original. The only thing that hurts me is that Amane hates herself and it shows so much in this version.
Amane's perfection!!!! HE'S PERFECT in every panels and these are my the most favorite
JUST HIM
HIM
Amane is the best in pilot and original story
The pilot version has its place in the original story. For example, Amane vs Kou on the roof, there are references(of course with big changes). The only thing I'm glad they didn't add is "strike" every time Amane decides to withdraw a wish.