Doing Sketches

Do you think tsukasa abused amane 50 years ago or some unknown bullies and why he was?( didn’t do anything the poor boi!) please explain!

That's a really good question. This requires me to upgrade.

I used to think Tsuaksa was beating him up, now I'm not so sure, I doubt it. Despite my doubts about Tsukasa, I didn't exclude him from suspecting it. I'm explaining more.

If it turns out that Tsukasa from the red house is the real Tsukasa, the same person as big Tsukasa… it doesn't make sense to me that he gave his life for him, and now Tsukasa would beat up Amane… it doesn't make sense,and that makes me doubt, but I'm not going to remove him from suspicion either.

I thought about parents too, but it seems that it doesn't make sense because the incident is being shown at school

The only clue is the cover from Volume 3. Where Amane is hiding behind a curtain.

Amane also held the curtain when he was beaten and his books were torn (Poor boy 💔)

Also as a supernatural, he hides behind the curtain.

It seems to me that the veil is to protect him from evil and pain. This boy has already suffered a lot and is still suffering and doesn't mind because he thinks he deserves it😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔

The book possibly shows the culprit… it's hard to tell if it's Tsukasa's hand or someone else's.

This hand… on a black background, I feel like it says "attention threat" So…

I have no idea who beat him or why. Few clues, the only thing AidaIro really gave as clues was this hand.

Classmate, supernatural, Tsukasa, maybe someone else who hasn't been revealed yet? Hmm....

If only AidaIro would give us more… but apparently AidaIro only gives us crumbs from the twins' past, especially when it comes to Amane.

Although it's good enough that AidaIro confirmed my suspicions that Amane committed suicide after killing Tsukasa and there's more to come… I feel it's going to be a long wait for Amane's past.

I didn't help much.

Caught in a cross fire

Does Hanako have some qualities?

Oh boy does he. I wonder if you meant to type "good qualities"? I tend to give him a hard time out here or cheer on his difficult traits (mostly because I feel people less often observe that head-on), so maybe you want to know what is positive about him? Apologies if you meant something else, but I'll answer for now as if this said "good qualities"...

Hanako's most incredible quality to me, which no other character has, is his deep endless romanticism... his utter commitment, his devotion, his obsession, the manner of which he thinks of things is I feel ... just more poetic and naturally artful than, anyone else. I think it makes sense that being in love with Hanako winds up making you equally obsessive and sick (Nene and Tsukasa dealing with this both)... I think it's just, impossibly captivating. I really think Hanako's heart is the most elegant here... his love is incredible. To get the chance to be loved by Hanako-- you would not ever want anything else.

And if he didn't love you, you'd just die.

Nene is a childish and crude little poet girl, doing her best to write her feelings out (but naturally following a more trope-y, rather ignorant perspective, starting out)

we love it. Tsukasa does his best with his sincere gestures...

...both are very sweet. Kind of ... innocent naive little things, Nene and Tsukasa.

There's something about how Hanako expresses his heart, in the rare moments we glimpse it... its like a peek at the burning sun..

capable of setting up a telescope to face at a star he feels powerfully about, a metaphor for feelings he has.

a natural sense of incredible poetics, speaking in celestial bodies...

unlike Nene.. I don't think Amane really reads romantic poetry and aches to become such a protagonist. He's not copying anything he's seen or read. This is just the magnitude of which he conceptualizes his own feelings for others-- equating them to the incredible wonders of the sky that have bewitched him since he was a child.

when Amane's love comes out, it wants to express itself in incredible extremes. In intoxicating, delusional epiphanies,

with imperative severity

which is also why he acts possessively and dangerously ... it's all fueled by this-- the beautiful center-- the unbearable, indomitable love he cannot help but be consumed by! Right or wrong, it compels him! He can't help it!

I really think ... that Nene and Tsukasa are both trying to chase down the root of Amane, uncover this thing inside of him... while neither can really seem to confirm confidently his love for them (at least, at one point)....

this is really the most romantic manga I have read ?? sounds crazy. But true. and It's only like that because of the center of it, the title character, being absolutely insane with passion...

Amane would do anything for love .... when he acts dangerously in canon, when he risks his soul, he's doing it for love.

It is a kind of love Nene or Tsukasa could never find anywhere else, never in their damn lives ... I honestly don't think you would see this love even in Akane. Not to be all Me about it but .... I think true love does make you insane.

while Amane needs to learn how to COMMUNICATE WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM!!!!! he does not need to work on or fix his heart, which, I believe, is unbelievably pure.

So I thought about a JoshNeku Au and it goes a little like this .

Both have been bullied.

Both become childhood friends.

We know Joshua was able to see the game but what if Neku was similar as in able to go between the UG and RG (sorta like a ghost).

Neku also has a thing with the nosies for he can communicate them by understanding their feelings and at times they even help him but there still that tried to attack them so he focus on what routes he takes to avoid that kind of noises,same with the reapers ( has a progfox as a little buddy named Haruya and Joshua loves it too).

Neku has very sensitive hearing so that why he wear headphones ( gift from Joshua) or try not to go out where the crowd can be to much unfortunately not often and Joshua tries.

Spent most of time where the Mr.CAT mural that Joshua show to Neku because is mostly isolated and quiet , a perfect hangout.

Never told each other about the game until they found out they both had known about the game, even Joshua later took Neku to Mr.H (will know he is CAT later) .

Joshua goes with his plan on becoming composer ( keep it a secret from Neku) his fee is Neku memories of him( like beat) but because of some twisted rules he was unable to get his fee back even if he now composers ( did it as player not reaper so that why).

Neku in grief of his close forgotten friend but it gets worse cause his dad eventually died of illness and far later his mom died in an accident so he now lives with his uncle who isn’t caring.

Still goes to wildcat on his hard and badest days because he feels calm and safe there but Hanekoma can’t tell Neku the truth of what happened to Joshua because the risk of breaking rules.

Neku now rumor as the ghost of Shibuya ( though no one knows is him)

Neku has a plush of his dream eater cat partner from kingdom hearts drop distance because yes!

Shiki now becomes Joshua proxy for the game, Eri becoming her 1st week partner (erishiki if you want)

Neku meets the two and as the weeks goes on he tries to help a little but careful to not get caught.

Oh and finally Neku has a Cat Fox Hybrid Noise form but we’ll get to that later.

So yeah a friends to lovers joshneku Au

Inspired by https://archiveofourown.org/works/16175117/chapters/37795133

And https://archiveofourown.org/works/44621839/chapters/112254022

One of the thing I realized when reading then rereading TBHK is that rumors are cruel and i hate it when people talk about others without even to try to know or understand just being over dramatic and it’s stupid even as a victim in elementary also yes it was depressing



I agree in 100%. What's even worse is how supernaturals can get rid of their own Yorshiro and I'm talking about people who are precious to them. example is poor Sumire didn't mind what no.6 did to her and also Amane.

Tsukasa is literally happy at the thought of Amane will kill him a second time in future as you can see and how much he cares. Amane on the other side is devastated. Tsukasa has achieved his goal and Amane won't back down.

I find killing loved ones a second time more cruel.

Poor Amane:(

I actually meant how the position of the seventh mysteries work I forgot to plural sorry 😣

Example: why is yako no.2 instead 4 / how does the number system work?

But either way I love your answer

How does the number position of the 7 mystery work if obviously not age chronologically then what? The amount of regret, popularity, how much they are feared, or just similar to the inspired real 7 wonders of the school

I don't know if I understood correctly… here.

Well… When it comes to a human soul… soul doesn't grow old. At this age when a person dies at this age the soul stops. Amane stopped at the age of 13, although chronologically, he may be a grandfather. His time stopped at the moment of his death. It is so sad. So literally Amane is a middle schooler as we see that he has antiquated behaviors that he occasionally shows in the manga or official arts.

supernaturals have rumors. Rumors play a big role. Rumors are the core of their existence as shown in the manga. 7 mysteries are also gossip dependent. When Hanako's rumor changes, he will have to adapt. Yako is the perfect example that she had to attack the students because her rumor was changed.

Amane explained it and more.

Like Amane said "Scary things are more remembered", which is absolutely true, but also Amane said that they can't exaggerate… just like Yako did.

Rumor is the source of the existence of ordinary supernaturals as well as those with great power.

So Hanako-san is not that different from the other supernaturals in school that much, although I think Amane as Hanako is kind of the closest thing to God

Amane's grief keeps him in the human world. His role is for God to forgive him. Which means that filling the role of "Hanako-san" Amane will be forgiven for what he did.

It is unknown whether Tsukasa forgave him or not. It's hard to tell after chapter 95 that Tsukasa was really happy giving Amane this knife… while Amane is clear that he hasn't forgiven himself and considers himself the worst person all the while protecting his younger twin who is the most important to him.

His role is tied to his grief, but as Hanako he has responsibilities and it is rumors that are the core of the supernatural's existence. The soul as an ordinary soul with regret, could disappear / disappear from the world of people and go to the other side if someone filled his grief

If Amane destroyed his own Yorshiros, he would still exist and lose his powers and control over his border. That's how it happened with Yako,only Amane's role is greater than the other supernaturals in the school.

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In short: Amane doesn;t age because he died at the age of 13. Time stopped for him on the day he died. He may be chromnological much older, but he will stay in the body of a 13-year-old middle schooler. The soul does not age… Amane as an ordinary soul is in this world with regret for killing his brother. He regrets it, and the role of Hanako is to help him make God forgive him by fulfilling this role. Which means that grief keeps Amane in the human world to redeem Hanako's deed is a role to help Amane get God to forgive him. Rumors are what makes the supernatural exist.People need to remember them and that's important for any supernatural.

I hope I answered your question well

Why does Amane choose his name hanako, I understand yako choosing misaki but why hanako of all things, why the specific spelling in kanji that means flower kid

Ooh, you know, incidentally, I've been dwelling on the name "Hanako" lately...

The kanji (花子) is actually pretty typical, for "Hanako"... Let's say, it's one of the most classic spelling of this name? Building off of that, the myth of "Hanako-san of the bathroom" (トイレの花子さん) is actually one that has existed in Japan for years, and in it, the name is commonly spelled like that. From a writing perspective, Iro-sensei is just maintaining the ah, iconography of the name, I suppose?

I've talked before in a previous ask about how the "Jibaku" in the title is evoking several things at once. Well, I think Iro-sensei is the sort that likes everything to feel multilayered, so even the usage of "Hanako-kun" is conveying something very particular. Hanako is a very feminine name (as flower names commonly are; think of names like Daisy or Rose) — so appending -kun to it is a little bit strange... My wife and I have joked, it's sort of like, if the story was starring Bloody Mary… but the twist is that Mary is a boy, and we call him, Little Lad Mary, or something… Lol. This is one of those things western fandom might be missing out on, due to culture discrepancies. We read Hanako, and it perhaps doesn't stand out next to Natsuhiko as a very girly name. To the point where I don't really blame anyone for not keying into it; it's not so intuitive for us.

I mean, I myself have had to really internalize what the experience of reading the title could be like, for a native speaker. You're looking at Hanako-kun on the title, and then seeing this spooky cursed boy sitting on a toilet. And you're like "-? ? .. ?? Hanako... toilet ghost, but boy-? And, self bondage???" (lol) There's just ah, a different first impression when picking up volume 1, I think.

Now, to get into the in-world reasons for why Amane uses Hanako... Well. The thing is, we haven't actually gotten a very direct explanation on what Amane feels about the name. Feels quite shrouded in mystery still... perhaps, it's not something we'll know the truth of until we are able to learn about what Amane went through that made him become a mystery in the first place. For now, all we can do is infer...

Logically, we can say the name Hanako comes from the rumor of "Hanako-san", which is something that could have existed before Amane even died. The mysteries can be swapped out by other individuals, as we see with Mitsuba, who becomes the new "Hell of Mirrors". It seems the rumor itself doesn't suddenly change, despite Mitsuba being a wholly different person. And, beyond that, perhaps there was a different entity before that tengu that was the Hell of Mirrors... etc. So, a possible explanation is that the name Hanako was one that Amane inherited once he became No. 7.

Though, we do have examples of mysteries with titles that allude to their specific circumstance... such as the Misaki Stairs and Shijima-san of the Art Room. Questions that arise from this are: If a kaii replaced Yako or Shijima, would the rumor stay the same? What were the rumors for No. 2 and No. 4 before theirs existed? Were there any at all...? I suppose, we don't know how long there have been 7 mysteries guarding the school. In any case... I wouldn't totally rule out the possibility that Amane himself is the origin of the Hanako-san rumor. For whatever reason, his actions in the past might have created Hanako-san. Shijima-san's rumor is a product of misinformation about Mei's death, so it might not have been Amane's choice how people perceived certain events.

I try and keep my mind open to the possibility, at least... though, if you want my personal opinion, I'm leaning more towards the former. I assume that Amane just inherited the role of No. 7, and the rumor associated with it was Hanako-san. The reason is... before meeting Nene, I'm not sure who else would even be calling him Hanako-? The mysteries are relatively distant from one another, and typically refer to one another by their numbers. I would say Tscuhigomori is the mystery that knows Amane the most personally, and deep down, I think Tsuchigomori simply sees Amane as... Yugi Amane. To Tsuchigomori, Amane is the same as when he knew him in life; he's been frozen in place here, never moving on. Tsukasa meanwhile knew Amane best, ostensibly, and was close with him through most of his life... and only ever calls him Amane.

I'm of the belief that Amane himself, does not closely identify with the name Hanako, before meeting Nene. I think it was a business name... I think it was even, kinda funny, like, Lol, girl's name... sure. He's amicable to wearing thigh highs and letting Nene dress up his hair, nor does he really fret about being gender-swapped, so it's not like having a "girl's name" would bother him much. It must feel very inconsequential...? He's only being regarded as Hanako-san on the rare occasion a soon-to-be-dead student summons him. Otherwise, he's Nanaban-sama to his co-workers... and internally, I think he's Amane... er, in a compulsive way-? Like, he can't control this remnant of his past life... Tricky, since there is a bit of compartmentalization happening; I do think Amane thinks of "Yugi Amane" as having died and no longer "really" existing beyond that death... What he is now, is something different and unrecognizable (... or, so he thinks.) At that point of dehumanization, he probably doesn't regard his current self with any name. Maybe he is just, a kaii, a mononoke, a murderer... etc.

Upon befriending Nene... I think that Amane wasn't taking their relationship so seriously. Her referring to him as Hanako-kun was kind of cute, funny, novel. He WAS obfuscating his identity, after all, so maybe it was ideal for her to see him this way. (Amane himself wouldn't have even let Nene know he killed someone in the past, let alone his real name...) So, performing as Hanako became something he does specifically for Nene's sake. This comes packaged with representing the mysteries as more close than they are, his job as more heroic than it really is, etc. I would say at this point, Amane starts to imagine a divide between Amane, living boy, and Hanako, the ghost that came after.

However, over time, the identity of Hanako-kun became more sentimental than Amane would ever have chosen. This was never supposed to be... more than, a flimsy front, a mask he wears, your silly bathroom ghost friend. That's why he's confused in Picture Perfect, with Nene's insistence that Amane-kun is the same as Hanako-kun. These should be separate things — Amane shouldn't be the same as Hanako! But... of course, they are, because he's the same as ever...

Haha, it's all kind of convoluted, but I like how much it makes one reflect on identity... Whether you personally identify with something or not, the urge to split yourself up, but also the way that you're always... yourself, even after things change... *wiggles fingers* Pretty cool, right? Often in posts, I'm kind of wrestling with how to refer to Amane, and how to keep things consistent enough to not be suuuper confusing... but it's hard! The names Amane and Hanako can be useful in tandem. It's such a Vibes thing, at times.

I typically default to Amane when referring to him as... the character, the entity of Amane, across many worlds/timelines. The entire history of the character, is "Amane" to me. Whereas I think of Hanako as more specifically encompassing the time he's spent with Nene! It's really Nene that has made Hanako more than just a title... though deep down, ig the real endgame of this would be regarding him as Amane...? [personal blatherings here...] Anyhoo...

We're surely due for more information on this topic someday. My wife has even mused on why the name Hanako is used for him... It's something to really contemplate-!!

I wonder if he has a form when he’s unsealed ( you know full power because most of his powers are sealed) I thought of some ideas, I really want to draw (when I feel for it) got any designs ideas You could think of ?( mine are kinda monster like but I’ll post when I have the chance) thanks for the answer

I really like amane’s trademark hat, it look like a security ones that I mostly find in other series of anime (which fits cause protecting the students of the school is his job) but also resembles a sailor one because the gold badge mostly look like a navy mark(which shows he from the far shore)

And his cape when he goes to hakujodai form straight up a navy cape( keep reminding me of the marine in one piece) cause he is the leader of the 7 mysteries.

Love amane design and him in total ❤️

You described what he wears beautifully 👏👏👏👏👏

Amane is really amazing, isn't he?✨❤️

Same here, I love him and his design in total❤️❤️❤️

Amane deserves love. He is the best!🥺✨💕

Have you ever thought of doing another fanfic on yu-gi-oh ArcV on super natural and fantasy as yu-boys being dragon hybrids and bracelet girls also have unique powers and a huge treat but instead the protagonists and most of the main group don’t die

I have had many fanfic ideas, but not that specifically. not sure i'll ever do anything exactly like that, but hey, you never know