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Hermes for the Hermes saga. Get your assess in the listening party nowwww!!!!!
Epic but everything’s the same except Athena raised ares as her little brother
The suitors honestly give such frat bro vibes
I love how in Love In Paradise when Odysseus cries out for Athena Eurylochus is singing: “you rely on wit” because Odysseus is literally relying on wit, on Athena
Please don't say none of them lol
So I have seen a lot of interpretations of Penelope's stunt with the wedding bed, but I haven't seen anyone echo my own so I thought I'd share? This is just my opinion though.
I think that the wedding bed thing was not just Penelope's way of saying Odysseus is always her husband no matter how much of a monster he thinks he is. I think she was calling his bluff.
Because throughout Epic, Ody's arc has him becoming a monster to get back home to his family. In Monster, he explicitly gives up his humanity to make it back home. And for the majority of act two, he stays true to this conviction. He is a monster, and he is ok with this, because it is what helps him to get back home.
However, when he sees Penelope again, he loses his conviction. As he faces his sweet and gentle wife, the woman he has been dreaming about for all these years and placing upon a pedestal, he falters. Because he feels he doesn't deserve her now that he has become a monster.
So even though it breaks his heart, he pushes her away. He tells her that he isn't the man she once knew and he questions whether she would ever fall in love with the version of him that he has become. In all of his lyrics in this song, he expresses how she could never fall in love with him again after everything he's done. He plays the part of a martyr, willing to give up his one true love because she should not be forced to love a monster.
Now, Odysseus is a rather selfish character. I think we can all agree on this, yes? It was selfish of him to taunt the cyclops, selfish of him to approach Aeolus alone and to keep the windbag to himself, selfish of him to refuse to listen to Eury when they first arrived at Circe's, selfish of him to sacrifice six men to Scylla, the list goes on. He isn't afraid to do what he has to to get what he wants.
And Penelope knows this.
So she rejects him, and she does it in the most hurtful way possible - telling him to literally uproot their lives, that she can't stand him to the point that she wants every reminder of him gone, even if that means basically destroying their room by removing the bed. This was 'a symbol of their love everlasting' so by asking him to get rid of it, she is saying that she really never could fall in love with him again.
And Odysseus fights back, because he is still selfish. He still wants his wife to love him. Despite pushing her away, he actually can't stand the idea of losing her after everything he went through to get back home to her. He cannot give her up.
Penelope points this out to him. You are my husband. Do not try to say that you don't deserve me, do not try to shy away from me because of what you have done. Don't play the part of a martyr now, when you have martyred others just to get back home to me.
You are selfish. You are a monster. But I love you regardless.
Because Odysseus will always be her husband. And just the fact that he feels he doesn't deserve her proves that her 'kind and gentle husband' is still in there, somewhere. She'll help him to return to a place of love and empathy one day. But it's something they'll do together, not apart.
And I think that's beautiful.
POSEIDON! POSEIDON! POSEIDON!
Merry Christmas/happy holidays @azzy-catt! This is my secret santa for you, I really hope you like it! You said either Athena or Poseidon so I went with Poseidon :)
This is a surprise to absolutely no one:
Shocker
How long do you think it took Odysseus to cave and tell Calypso his name?
Courtesy of the epic the musical discord meme page - art by willows3885
This is the final part because I have already decided on using Jojo Fraga's Love in Paradise animatic and Neal Illustrator's God Games animatic.
Or rather, the best ones to show to someone new to the fandom
Some of you will know that I am introducing my mom to epic through animatics. I need your help deciding which ones, now that we are up to the wisdom saga and I am spoilt for choice. I've narrowed it down to basically two each. We'll start with Legendary because tumblr won't let me do more than one poll at a time:
Neither of them know how to apologise properly
Are we going to talk about how in Dangerous Jorge perfectly captures Odysseus’s feeling of utter loneliness with his thematic reprisal of Full Speed Ahead? Are we going to talk about the pause after ‘Cause I had one goal in mind’ where you as the listener automatically supply: ‘make it back alive to our homeland’? Only the men singing that line didn’t make it back alive so are we going to talk about that or are we going to choose not to be sad today?
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
Nobody talks about how good Jorge is at communicating that time has passed in his music. That part in Puppeteer between when Ody sends out Eurycholus and when he returns so clearly expresses that time has passed without needing to say anything! Same with the opening cords of legendary. I have no idea how he does it, it’s actually insane how clearly he can communicate ideas through his music.
Epic from the perspective of someone on the other ships is like, so funny to me
I mean, imagine you have just got through the worst war of your life. Ten long years and you’re finally able to see your family again. Then your captain/commodore I guess/king says he’s going to go check out this creepy island.
Whatever, you were feeling hungry anyways. Then it’s off to a cave, where you sit around waiting for a weirdly long time until the crew of the fleet’s flagship emerge significantly worse for wear. The really nice guy who used to share his lunch with you sometimes is gone. The king is busy having an argument with thin air on his ship. Everyone is covered in blood.
Oh well, at least you can enjoy this mutton they brought back.
Then there’s a massive freaking storm and you’re literally about to die before you’re handed a harpoon and told to throw it as hard as you can at the sky? And you end up tethered to this beautiful floating island but you can’t even appreciate it because the king is busy having an argument with his first mate. It’s super awkward for everyone else.
The king disappears and returns with a cool glowing bag which these weird little creatures seem to think is treasure, but the king insists is dangerous. You shrug it off and go back to your ship.
Finally, nine days of peace! Nothing weird happens and you’re starting to believe you might actually make it home when THE FREAKING STORM COMES BACK YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE WITH THIS!!
You’re blown away from your home and your family and end up in this scary place with a whole bunch of giants and a very angry Poseidon singing about a cyclops. And you’re like what?? We never blinded a cyclops?? What are you talking about?? And then before you have a chance to question it you straight up drown in a tidal wave conjured to teach someone else a lesson.
No wonder they were so mad in the underworld. When does a man become a monster?? Probably when he doesn’t even bother providing context to his men before they die!
Guys I can't wait to update my banner profile to the vengeance saga album cover!!
Guys I know I’ve been posting a lot today but I was listening to thunder bringer and there was a flash of lightning as the riff started it was PERFECTLY IN TIME
Calypso is honestly the ultimate pick me. I can practically see her singing ‘you belong with me’ to poor Odysseus.
Ody fashions himself a hut opposite hers so they don’t have to share a bed, and every time he looks up she’s at the window with a sign.
“You ok?” You trapped me on an island what do you think the answer is Calypso??
Throwback to that time my brother discovered Jorge’s account through his “hefeffus” reel
Most men on their girlfriends birthday: Update their insta stories and wish her well
Jorge on Tayla’s birthday: Writes her a whole ass song AND compiles all his favourite photos of them together and goes into depth about what he loves about her in each one
Hey remember when I was yapping about a baby siren in different beast? Well I just watched an animatic that had the same idea! It was heartbreaking :D! Go watch it it's really good: https://youtu.be/SlT0G3Ltzu8
This is me with Epic the musical
You know, I'm no expert at dating advice, and sure, maybe I've never tried to marry anyone before, but maybe, just maybe (and hear me out here), calling the woman you're trying to seduce a TRAMP isn't going to help your chances much.
Odysseus from underworld saga onwards
I was wondering if maybe the sirens can only change to look like people who are around the same age as them (yes I’m still obsessed with the thunder saga, I promise I’ll write about wisdom saga soon)
Now obviously there’s no mythological or canonical reason why they would but it would certainly make things more interesting. Penelope is a middle aged woman so I imagine that Sirenope would have to be the eldest and most capable, most likely the leader as well.
And Odysseus’s daughter would be the youngest. I imagine a baby siren, around ten or so, impersonating this imaginary child. Perhaps this siren is the daughter of Sirenope, who is learning how to hunt from her mother (baby’s first drowning!! They grow up so fast!)
So when viewed through that lens Different Beast becomes even more monstrous because Odysseus is killing a child in front of its mother. He is also, ironically, putting Sirenope through the same pain he has felt ever since Poseidon - he is making her experience the guilt of a leader whose actions directly led to their people getting killed.
I saw a post that suggested Odysseus might have spared Sirenope’s life so she could live with the guilt of what she’s done, and I can’t help but admire the parallels. Odysseus has not only become a monster, he has become a monster that deals out the exact type of pain that he feels.
And he does it again by giving the torches to Eurylochus in Scylla oh my word-