Would Everything Change If Ventus Was Able To Feel Vanitas Emotions As Vanitas Feel Ventus Emotions?

Release your blade

I mean if ch 99 doesn’t go back to the group or on tsukasa.

Which I hope not

PLS ACTUALLY KOU CHARACTER REDEMPTION/ DEVELOPMENT

So remember when you had the time to do an explanation on your thoughts and feelings for Yashiro nene.

Do you think you could have the to explain your thoughts and feelings on kou minamoto?

The post about Nene…was written for so many reasons…

Kou.. I don't feel the need to write this right now. I don't know what will happen later. I still like Kou and give him the last second chance. I believe everyone deserves two chances. I feel disappointed at this point. That's all. I will 100% add a comment to chapter 99 :)

SAME !

Also NO.4 seijima mei is also an example of cruel gossip and rumors I mean Darn watching people straight up lie about her creator’s death that is beyond mess up! Not just over dramatic but beyond judge mental

One of the thing I realized when reading then rereading TBHK is that rumors are cruel and i hate it when people talk about others without even to try to know or understand just being over dramatic and it’s stupid even as a victim in elementary also yes it was depressing



I agree in 100%. What's even worse is how supernaturals can get rid of their own Yorshiro and I'm talking about people who are precious to them. example is poor Sumire didn't mind what no.6 did to her and also Amane.

Tsukasa is literally happy at the thought of Amane will kill him a second time in future as you can see and how much he cares. Amane on the other side is devastated. Tsukasa has achieved his goal and Amane won't back down.

I find killing loved ones a second time more cruel.

Poor Amane:(

This idea was inspired by other games and possibly stories with the idea of origin and finality from what I remember and then saw some connection In Vanitas no carte

And their was also this quote I remember

“Your death is my origin”

To be honest I feel like vanitas real name will somehow be the opposite for what vanitas means because in the end him being killed by noe will not be his end but also gives him fulfillment and the noe true name will also be opposite of the meaning?

Or noe name has something to do with finality then vanitas name is origin?

I don’t know what your thoughts about it?

I’ll love to hear your headcannon/theories.

Hi! I actually happen to have a theory on Vani’s true name in drafts! It’s not properly written yet, because I wasn’t sure whether to post it or not. But your question kinda made me think about it again from a new angle. So I’ll find some illustrations, elaborate on details and post it soon. But no spoilers on that for now👀 I'll just say that this name has some cool mythological origins👀👀

Now about the connection of Vani’s real name and Noé’s true name. I agree that there must be some thematical link between them.

Unfortunately, I’m not sure about what Noé’s true name itself should be. From what I remember, so far three true names are known: Florifel ― She Who Guides Spring (Amelia), Canorus — She Who Plays Snow Crystals (Chloe), Aprix ― He Who Nestles Close to the Last Snows (JJ). All true names are Latin words (Florifel should be "Florifer" which is a Latin adjective meaning “flowery”, but FlorifeL just happened in English localization) that are somewhat relevant to the vampires’ character arcs and personalities. It’s a bit hard to choose a specific word from all the Latin adjectives… But I really like the idea that Noé’s true name could mean something like finality or grand change, especially since Vani’s real name in my theory is actually connected with the theme of origin and new beginnings!

Alternatively, Noé's true name could mean salvation (another recurring theme between these two). The name Noé already implies both "ends and beginnings" and "salvation" because of the story of the Arc of Noah.

Either way, both of them could have a set of names related to the concepts of Ends and Beginnings, but reversed. Noé and Vanitas are each others foils, they are written for each other – shared meaning of names would only reinforce it.

It would also add some inteteresting flawor to the theory (that I personally treat as a fact at this point) that Noé will become the next Vanitas/owner of at least one Book.

Overall, the connection between their true names is a solid idea. And I'll try to elaborate on that in the nearest future, when I post about Vani's name!

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I actually meant how the position of the seventh mysteries work I forgot to plural sorry 😣

Example: why is yako no.2 instead 4 / how does the number system work?

But either way I love your answer

How does the number position of the 7 mystery work if obviously not age chronologically then what? The amount of regret, popularity, how much they are feared, or just similar to the inspired real 7 wonders of the school

I don't know if I understood correctly… here.

Well… When it comes to a human soul… soul doesn't grow old. At this age when a person dies at this age the soul stops. Amane stopped at the age of 13, although chronologically, he may be a grandfather. His time stopped at the moment of his death. It is so sad. So literally Amane is a middle schooler as we see that he has antiquated behaviors that he occasionally shows in the manga or official arts.

supernaturals have rumors. Rumors play a big role. Rumors are the core of their existence as shown in the manga. 7 mysteries are also gossip dependent. When Hanako's rumor changes, he will have to adapt. Yako is the perfect example that she had to attack the students because her rumor was changed.

Amane explained it and more.

Like Amane said "Scary things are more remembered", which is absolutely true, but also Amane said that they can't exaggerate… just like Yako did.

Rumor is the source of the existence of ordinary supernaturals as well as those with great power.

So Hanako-san is not that different from the other supernaturals in school that much, although I think Amane as Hanako is kind of the closest thing to God

Amane's grief keeps him in the human world. His role is for God to forgive him. Which means that filling the role of "Hanako-san" Amane will be forgiven for what he did.

It is unknown whether Tsukasa forgave him or not. It's hard to tell after chapter 95 that Tsukasa was really happy giving Amane this knife… while Amane is clear that he hasn't forgiven himself and considers himself the worst person all the while protecting his younger twin who is the most important to him.

His role is tied to his grief, but as Hanako he has responsibilities and it is rumors that are the core of the supernatural's existence. The soul as an ordinary soul with regret, could disappear / disappear from the world of people and go to the other side if someone filled his grief

If Amane destroyed his own Yorshiros, he would still exist and lose his powers and control over his border. That's how it happened with Yako,only Amane's role is greater than the other supernaturals in the school.

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In short: Amane doesn;t age because he died at the age of 13. Time stopped for him on the day he died. He may be chromnological much older, but he will stay in the body of a 13-year-old middle schooler. The soul does not age… Amane as an ordinary soul is in this world with regret for killing his brother. He regrets it, and the role of Hanako is to help him make God forgive him by fulfilling this role. Which means that grief keeps Amane in the human world to redeem Hanako's deed is a role to help Amane get God to forgive him. Rumors are what makes the supernatural exist.People need to remember them and that's important for any supernatural.

I hope I answered your question well

PIZZA TOAST

From: Honkai Impact 3

Mmm o

How about amane waiting to join tsukasa once he fulfilled his duties or once the TBHK series is over (it’s kinda simple I know) he actually might fight against and destroy him but that’s my opinion.

Intersting....

These flowers… They look like Tsubaki in other words "Camellias"

I did the colors to make sure the flowers look pink.. it's actually a bright red and white.

Red camellia means love, white camellia means waiting.

The red camellia symbolizes Amane's love for Tsukasa. I wonder what the symbolism of the white "wait" means. Waiting for what? I'm curious.

It's really amazing that AidaIro has shown again that Amane loves Tsukasa in another amazing way,they said "Amane loves Tsukasa,don't hate him"

Tsukasa looks so calm.. He trusts Amane so much.

They love each other so much!❤️💜

So remember when you had the time to do an explanation on your thoughts and feelings for Yashiro nene.

Do you think you could have the to explain your thoughts and feelings on kou minamoto?

The post about Nene…was written for so many reasons…

Kou.. I don't feel the need to write this right now. I don't know what will happen later. I still like Kou and give him the last second chance. I believe everyone deserves two chances. I feel disappointed at this point. That's all. I will 100% add a comment to chapter 99 :)

Sure! Hanako have too much to work with, since he is the main character, so I’ll focus on the thing I love the most about him: His inexperience when it comes to caring about others.

Hanako put up thick walls between himself and his peers, rarely connects to others, be they humans or supernaturals.

Helping students and keeping them safe is his duty, his punishment to atone, not something he personally wants, his own personal view is far more ‘cold’, Amane’s empathy was destroyed after he became a supernatural, beaten down after sixty years of being dead.

What he tells Kou here is true.

He has shown time and time again, people’s life isn’t particularly important to him,  he’ll exchange one life for another without guilt for the person he doomed because of personal preference, and had destroyed yorishiros since the start of the manga, knowing of the danger of doing so, for his own gains.

Before the manga story starts, Hanako is alone.

He plays with the other mysteries but he doesn’t consider anyone his friend. He keeps a distance even from Tsuchigamori, unaware Amane’s moon rock is his old teacher’s yorishiro and only seemingly not talking to his old teacher much, only looking for him when he needs Tsuchigomori for something.

He is apathetic to practically everything, drowning in his own misery: Tsukasa is the only one that can break him out of his apathetic state, and he is the one Hanako keeps running away from. Hanako is the titular character but we never saw his boundary because he can’t face Tsukasa, his yorishiro, finding it much easier to hide and spend his afterlife in the bathroom instead.

Tsukasa was important to Amane, and while he is important to Hanako as well, Tsukasa is rarely perceived his brother, his presence is mostly treated as the personification of Hanako’s guilt. Hanako hasn’t tried to understand Tsukasa’s feelings or expressed worry about his well-being: out of all his comflicting emotions, his priority is usually to look away.

Hanako has spent a lot of his afterlife in this limbo of running away and not connecting with anyone, but eventually, he met two people he got very attached to: Kou and Nene.

He loves them a lot, much more than he loves himself.

He will try his very best to face Tsukasa, face the embodiment of the trauma he has been running away from for decades, to keep them safe.

Most of the time, Hanako fails: he is too terrified to act, he gets panicked or paralyzed, trapped in the past.

He can’t help when Tsukasa is his oponent.

Even outside his past, there are still things Hanako can’t help with.

The guilt and panic and pain of having no use for someone he wants to help hurt, but Hanako doesn’t run away from this pain.

He tries to help anyways, to reach out as best he can.

And Kou’s trouble linger in his mind, when the kid gets depressed again, Hanako will try to help him again.

He want Kou to feel better.

He may have said “He is kind of like you, isn’t he, No.2?” but he doesn’t care about Yako or her attachment to Misaki, his attention is on Kou the second he finish his request: interested in his reaction, not her feelings.

He is selfish though, he cares about their feelings, but he mostly listens to his own, which is most obvious to see with Nene.

In the clock keepers arc he mentioned he kept Nene’s lifespan secret because he wants her to live her best life in blissful ignorance, but he doesn’t make her the priority, he makes himself: He is aware she hates toilet duty, no one enjoys being forced to waste their evenings cleaning bathroom, but he likes it.

And he rarely enjoys things, so he can’t let go of it. He can’t sacrifice this hint of joy for the sake of Nene living “her best life”

He adores spending time with her, and since he has very little self-worth, he is convinced she would never spend time with him by her own volition, he needs to use the cleaning duty as an excuse.

Is why he gets so happy when she calls him a friend.

This love, this care, is something Hanako really wants from her.

But is also something Hanako doesn’t think he deserves.

He can get frustrated by how much they love him, by how distorted their view is, as if he is a ‘good ghost’. He loves their otimist, and he get annoyed by them, he loves them but he is constantly looking down at them for it. He loves them but he hates himself.

So he sabotage himself.

He tells Kou and Nene point blank his bad traits “I am dead already. I don’t care if someone dies or not. ” “I killed someone and you shouldn’t excuse it” “I am selfish, I care about you Nene, and not your best friend.” are things he only tell Nene and Kou, as if he was screaming. “I am not a good ghost” even if he will never  tell them “Leave me alone, stop visiting me.”

Hanako is constantly fighting between clinging to what he loves, regardless of how much his behavior hurt them, and telling himself he should want them away from him.

Both of his attempts to save Nene involved being away from her, either trapping her in picture-perfect until she forgot about him, or exchanging Aoi’s lifespan with Nene’s, saving her but making it so he can’t see her again, and she would eventually forget about him.

The more Hanako’s love for Nene grow the bigger the lengths he is willing to go for her, even if at it core, his love remains selfish, he knew Nene wouldn’t be happy with his solutions, but he doesn’t care, cause she will live, and she will live by his own hands.

He acts like doesn’t know why he does this a lot of times:

And to some degree, he truly doesn’t know.

Hanako has many mental blocks when it comes to admitting vulnerability, even to himself. He looks anguished when he confesses to Nene that he wants her to live.

Which is a purely Hanako wish.

Hanako never had a wish, not outside his “wish” to atone’, which he constantly refears to as punishment, not something he personally want, just something he deserves.

 Even as Amane he had gave up on his wish.

So wishing for Nene to live is a very new feeling.

This wish makes him go against his duties as No.7 and his quest to ‘repent’, but he can’t even care because he really wants her to live. And is not like going against “god’s will” is what trouble him, since he destroys yorishiros the second he got the chance.

He can no longer deny he is smitten with her.

We can see this all consuming care with Kou too, even if it is more subtle it’s still very present, and just as impactful in his afterlife.

Nene is someone he loves but very rarely rely on, she is his special someone, he’ll go above and beyond to do what he believe is best for her, ask anyone and even if they disapprove of his actions, they can’t deny he is clingy, always ready to rescue her.

His view on Kou is different, he is someone he ask to fight and help. Is not that he doesn’t trust Nene, exactly, but he had the “I’ll keep you in the dark mentality” from the secon they met, while he never planed on treasuring Kou, he just saw enough potential, or use, in this exorcist kid, to occasionally rely on him.

Hanako plans for Kou only involved a vague “he can exorcise me later” idea, but he ends up genuinely caring about Kou after he stand up for him agaist Teru the young exorcist arc. 

It’s no longer just “this boy is so funny, and I can both make fun of him and use him”, now Kou is his friend.

Just compare how he treats Kou when he is in at Yako’s boundary, and in Hell of Mirrors.

He has gotten the habit to be honest with Kou, he is always counting on him on little things when they are together, and it hurts so bad when Kou fail, because Hanako trusts him, and he hasn’t trusted someone in such a personal way in 60 years.

Hanako is more comfortable hating himself them his friends, so he usually doesn’t let his dissapointment in Kou linger. Focusing most of his negative thoughts on himself.

Kou isn’t infallible, but he is the one Hanako trusts the most.

Hanako used to trust Kou almost blindly, holding on to the feeling, but once he is let down, he gets so hurt, he resents the feeling.

He is a contradictory character, cause it feels like he hate Kou at times, but he can’t stop caring about him. He only got attached to two people, he can’t pretend Nene or Kou “aren’t important”

He will try to be logical all he wants but his emotions speak louder than his logic.

We know Hanako lingered in Mei’s fake world because his deepest wish is to be human with Nene. So even though it is a big red flag for Nene to see Hanako as her classmate Amane, the supernatural couldn’t resist playing pretend.

Just for a bit, just for a taste of a normal life with her.

He is consistently selfish, and irrational when it comes to Nene. And while behavior with Kou is less and frenzied than how he act with Nene, he still deeply affected by his emotions

Kou can’t be discarded, he is important in his wish, the other half of his reason to want to be alive after years of just accepting his death.

Even may have made up his mind about not going anywhere, he still refuse to follow everyone to Mei’s exit, to the moon, but he wants Kou and Nene to always come to him.

Cause even thought Yashiro was his focus, an Mitsuba took most of Kou’s time, Hanako does make it very clear he want Kou there too. He even try to knock Kou out like he did with Nene the second he notices Mitsuba failed and realize Kou want to run away.

He risked Kou being in this world, indulged Mitsuba in his dream to be human and live a normal school life by the side of friends, which is a wish Hanako has shown to actively disapprove of in hell of mirrors (and is also same wish as the one Hanako have expressed in this arc), because Kou is part of his wish.

His motives for wanting to trap Kou until he lose his memories are unclear but his anger towards Kou for giving him hope after years of nothing only to realize his hope is false is all over picture perfect.

And Hanako is a coward, he discount his anger on Mitsuba, doesn’t explain anything, take Nene, and leave Kou confused.

Hanako only loses his patience and tell how he feels when Kou is in his way, and Hanako needs to beat him if he wants Nene to stay. The one thing that he’ll always prioritize above all else is Nene after all.

There is a certain determination to only focus on Nene after picture-perfect, not take Kou as seriously.

And what kills me is that Hanako’s attempts to distance himself are very half-hearted.

It fails.

No matter how real his anger, his care is just as real, if not more so. He is still eager to play fight with Kou and spend time with him. Their overall dynamic isn’t very affected.

Is always “Nene” and “Kou” and “everyone else”. Even when Kou isn’t in the scene, Hanako thinks of him.

There is this idea Kou is important, an implied “If I can’t save Nene, Kou will be the one to save her”, even with all the reasons and proof he has that Kou can’t do something as big as alter her fate, part of him still believe Kou can do it. Is a part of him that is illogical and Hanako hates it, and doesn’t want to deal with it.

So he focus on Nene’s lifespan, he became obsessed with it.

He has always been possessive of Nene. In any chapter they are together he is touchy and flirty and so openly attached to her he is insane.

He knows he is in love.

He also knows he is the ghost of a dead killed and feels like Nene deserves better than what he has to offer, but he can’t let her go.

He knows he is a bad person and feel like Nene deserves better but he can’t let her go. Even when he is determined to grant her wish, to make a ‘no turn back’ decision, his determination crumbles the second they are face to face, his logic dies and he is just… Happy to see her again.

Even if he knows his plans failed, even if he knows she will die, he just… like seeing her.

His love is openly selfish and doomed to not last, which is something he understands and doesn’t know how to deal with, but just like he can’t force himself to truly hate Kou and stop believing in him, he also can’t force himself to stop loving Nene and desperately trying to find ways to make her live.

He is a mess.