System Discourse - Blog Posts

This is the point we’re constantly trying to get across.

-Apollo

I do not care what alignment you have with syscourse right now.

Harassment isn’t something that should be encouraged. If someone does not align with your views, block them and move on. If they’re harassing people, no matter what alignment you have, keep other people safe.

Don’t go spilling trauma to people either, it can trigger people.

Just block and move on. It does better for everyone.

We are anti-endo, but if someone comments that there is a blog that is harassing people even if they’re also anti-endo, I’m not for it. I’ll tell everyone no matter what. They’re harassing people, they don’t need to interact with anyone if they’re doing that.

Please stay safe.

This was a reply on a response to an ask. In the post I mentioned why I don’t want endogenic systems on my page. I’ve said it a few times but here’s it again for those who missed it or were asleep in the back of the classroom.

My experience with the Endo community hasn’t been totally terrible, but I have seen their bad side. A lot of other traumagenic systems have been targeted by the endo community because of their difference in opinions. This can come in many forms including attacking trauma only discord servers, targeting those with opposing view points, cyber bullying, and spreading hate and discourse.

People tend to feel attacked when their viewpoint is challenged, whether they’re being attacked or not. And people who are insecure in their identity or view point (as I believe many endos are) tend to lash out when they feel that way. I don’t want to say anyone is a bad person, I’m just pointing out patterns I have seen and heard of over and over. A lot of endos have resorted to hate and cyber bullying when they find those who don’t believe them.

Now this isn’t to say that the traumagenic community hasn’t also been hurtful. I’ve seen plenty of people attacking every endo or supporter they see based on their past experiences with a different endo or supporter.

Now here comes the really messy part. Even if endos aren’t purposely hurting those who aren’t in their community, they are actively spreading misinformation that can seriously damage the public view of systems. By making claims like “you can choose to be like this” or that it’s all fun and games warps the reality of the pain and trauma that is associated with dissociative disorders. And by spreading a false narrative it makes it harder for those struggling to be taken seriously.

Just to be clear I do not condone any kind of attacks or targeting of endos or their community. I am perfectly happy to coexist as long as they stay in their own lane.

Have a good day -Apollo/Elizabeth

If you are a sys and need to see someone's personal documentation to prove that they aren't an endo. Something is absolutely wrong with you. There should be 0 reason you need to see PRIVATE documents to prove anything. A literal doctor PROVED that you CAN be a sys without trauma. I'm not saying go LIE and say that you have trauma if you do not have it, but the fact that there's a literal "endo checklist" makes 0 sense to me. THEY DON'T KNOW YOU AND YOU DON'T KNOW THEM EITHER. So WHY is it your business???????? That's THEIR personal information. If they don't want to share the shit with you, that doesn't mean go fake/false claim anything on anybody. Has nobody taught you internet safety??? "If you don't show me, then you clearly don't have any at all" ITS PERSONAL FOR A REASON. NOBODY is required to share a DAMN thing with you. You are STRANGERS on the internet. So why are you so concerned about if they stim from trauma or not? Their trauma is none of your business. If they decide to share it with you, then they will. Do not FORCE it out of them. If you're a traumagenic system faceclaiming, harassing or otherwise acting sysmedicalistic and bigoted towards other systems online, without even knowing for sure what their actual origin is or what their life is even like and only going off of some arbitrary list of things that OTHER TRAUMAGENIC SYSTEMS ARE ALSO CAPABLE OF, then you shouldn't get upset when people attempt to do the same thing with you. You aren't owed an explanation as to why someone is what they say they are, and believing that you are is entitled at best and bigoted at worst.

I'm tired of watching people fight. And as a person with a mainly traumagenic system.. I DONT CARE IF YOURE ENDO OR ALSO TRAUMAGENIC. Why? Because it isn't my place nor my business to know what you have going on. "Well you saying this means you suppor-" no. I just don't give a shit about what you are. Endo or traumagenic, I don't give a damn. I don't know you. Therefore I don't care what you are. I'm not supporting anybody. I simply don't care. I have no opinion on endos. As long as nobody is spreading misinformation or harming/bothering ME.. then I don't care. I never will care. I cannot care. Stop using dogwhistle terms to target a demographic just because you don't like them. Just.. stop caring.