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Syscourse Speedrun
- Endogenic means a system formed for reasons not correlated to trauma
- Endogenic does NOT mean a complete lack of trauma in an individual
- Endogenics, Pro-Endos and adjacent fundamentally view systemhood differently and outside of solely disordered experiences
That said...
- Complex Dissociative Disorders (DID/OSDD/Etc) have well known and studied ties to trauma, with complexity rising from prolonged and severe cases.
- Trauma is not part of diagnostic criteria to include those who cannot remember their trauma due to dissociation. Not because it isn't an important or known factor.
- Integration =/= Fusion, Integration is the lessening of dissociative barriers and a systems ability to function together. Fusion is the merging of parts.
- Final fusion and functional multiplicity are both viable end goals and up to the systems desires and needs. Integration is required for both of these.
- People are allowed to be affected positively AND negatively by their disorders and life experiences.
- People are also allowed to view their disorders in whatever way they desire
- It is not your job to police people because you think what they're doing is harmful for them.
- It is also not your job to tell people they have trauma that they just don't know about.
- Dissociation is a spectrum.
- Other disorders experience dissociative parts with less elaboration like those with DID/OSDD/Etc
- Westernized Tulpamancy and Tulpas as known today are not directly related to Tibetan Buddist Nirmanakaya or Sprul-pa. Westernized Tulpamancy comes from 20th century mystic explorers, who developed these ideas mostly independently.
- Vajrayana and Mahayana Buddhism are open and inclusive religions anyway, but what Tulpamancers practice is very different.
- There is a conversation to be had about the suppression of religious freedom that has affected Tibetan Buddhism, but it's still not a closed practice.
- Something here about Theosophy in relation to Westernized Tulpamancy
- Plural is not solely synonymous with system, and not everyone who identifies as plural is a system.
- Not every system will identify as plural either.
- The term plural has ties to other non-system communities such as alterhumanity.
- Plural is an inherently inclusive term.
- People are allowed to be wrong about their origins in whatever potential way.
- Being wrong is not equivalent to faking.
- Origins are self applied labels and tell you very little about a person and their system
- Origins can and often do overlap.
- Endogenic origins does not mean a system cannot be diagnosed and meet criteria for a CDD.
- People are allowed to view and label their parts in whatever way is best for them.
- System accountability is important. You are one tangible entity and you take responsibility for the things that occur because of your system.
- Discourse stances do not make a person or space inherently safer or more dangerous.
- People's actions speak louder than labels, and anyone can be a horrible person.
- Its up to a system to determine their own boundaries and needs.
- You don't need to argue if your boundaries differ from someone else's; enforce your own.
- Block people and topics that make you uncomfortable and especially if they're potentially triggering.
- Genuinely, please just learn to be friends with the block button.
- Harassment is bad no matter who you are.
- Yes it's still bad if you disagree with someone or think they're in the wrong.
- Criticism is not harassment.
- Even if you don't intent to change your mind, facilitating genuine conversation with people instead of assuming things about them or their experiences will contribute to a better interaction for both sides.
- Ableism is bad.
- Stop using things like delusional as Insults or treating people with ficticious disorder poorly.
- Stop treating mentally ill adults as inherently incapable of functioning or dictating things for themselves.
- Sanism is Also bad.
- Fake claiming is bad.
- Stop insinuating that pro-endos (and adjacent) aren't traumatized, aren't systems or can't have CDDs.
- Yes, again, fake claiming is bad even if you don't like or disagree with someone.
- Stop saying its "so easy" to tell who fakers are.
- The psychiatric and mental health systems are full of flaws.
- Diagnosis is a privilege for some and isn't for others.
- Some people may not want or desire a diagnosis for many reasons. This does not make their problems any less than.
- Being medically recognized is just as valid as having a diagnosis.
- Yes, therapists can diagnose people with things. A title does not equal credentials.
- If a therapist cannot diagnose you due to their credentials or other factors but suspects something, they will refer you to another professional who can for evaluation.
- Some therapists will choose of their own volition not to diagnose patients for varying reasons.
- Self diagnosis and self suspecting isn't a bad thing. Research is always encouraged for accuracy of what you suspect.
- The resources people find through self diagnosis even if not the right thing to suspect can be helpful for someone's situation.
- Reiterating here again that being wrong isn't faking, and that being wrong isn't a bad thing.
- Being able to help yourself cope is a good thing.
- Recognizing your symptoms if you intend to speak to a professional is also a good thing.
People are all different, be kind.
If you have questions I'm glad to talk, if you are aggressive or just trying to start something, you will be blocked :)