Betray by 糖糖Will
I really liked Eret’s reading of Ozymandias today so here’s a quick edit of it overtop of Sad-ist’s Ozymandias animation!
Watch the original animation here
Ummmmmm…. What?!?!! Omg!… I was rewatching Bad’s visit to Dream in the prison and what do I find but a conversation about living conditions and torture with Quackity! Wtf?!!
It’s too long of a clips, so here’s the time stamp 33:34-36:06.
And I did my best to transcribe it (but dang it’s hard when they talk over each other):
B: “I’ll talk to Quack—oh Quackity he’s studying to be a lawyer! We can get Quackity’s opinion.”
Q: ”Hi Bad.”
B: “Hi. Umm question for you. So you—you know Deam right?”
Q: ”Yeah…”
B: ”Yeah you know how he’s like in jail right now.”
Q: “Mm—hmm”
B: “Do you think it’d be too much to ask to go around and like try to improve like his living conditions in the prison? Like what do you think?”
Q: “Improve his living conditions?…”
B: “Yeah like I went and visited—have you visited him in the prison yet?”
Q: “Yeah yeah. no I—I haven’t—I have no reason to visit him right now… Oh, let me get this straight: improve his living conditions as in maybe like add a wall around him uhh probably bully him for awhile you know—”
B: “Na—noo!”
Q: “You know kind of like how he did with L’manberg?”
B: “Nooo!—that’s the opposite.”
Q: “Because that’s exactly what he did with L’manberg. You know what? You know what? You’re right—”
B: ”Oh my gosh…”
Q: “I could improve his living conditions—”
B: “Quackity—no!”
Q: “By boxing him in a goddamn box!”
B: “Language! Woah woah—woah.”
Q: “Yea I—I probably could do that.”
B: “Language. language. language.”
Q: “Sorry…”
B: “That’s all right.”
Q: “Maybe I could improve his living conditions like that. Maybe I could do that—”
B: “No no no-No no no.”
Q: “Maybe you’re right.”
B: “Listen, you gotta go visit him. Okay? You know what? I’m not even gonna say it I’m just saying you gotta go and visit him on one of your streams. Okay? Because—”
Q: “Oh I am. No no no believe me—believe me I’m going to.”
B: “At some point go visit him cuz—”
Q: “Oh I’m going to.”
B: “And you’ll see exactly what I’m saying then we can like discuss it. Okay?”
Q: “What—what is this? Did he—did he manipulate you? What—what did he tell you?—”
B: “No!”
Q: “Why are you acting all of the sudden so nice to him?”
B: “Look obviously Dream deserves to stay there cuz he did a lot of bad things, right?”
Q: “Mm—hmm.”
B: “But—doesn’t mean we should like—keep him in there and just have him like tortured all the time like even—”
Q: “No no, not right—not right—”
B: “No, that is right!”
Q: “No, I think that’s exactly what he deserves.”
B: ”Oh come on—”
Q: ”No no I think that’s exactly what he deserves.”
B: “Even Dream has rights as a prisoner. Right? You’re a lawyer.”
Q: “I’m sorry I’m sorry but I don’t recall Dream having any mercy on us when—”
B: “Well, yeah he didn’t but—”
Q: “He put that wall around us—”
B: “Okay..”
Q: “And he pulled all those things to Tubbo and—”
B: “Okay…”
Q: “W—why do you want to release him?”
B: “No one’s talking about releasing him!”
Q: “Okay.”
B: “I’m talking about giving him like a potted plant! Just don’t torture him while he’s locked up—he’s been locked up enough…You feel me?”
Q: “No, Bad—”
B: “Like he’s been—he’s suffering.”
I would almost say that c!Tommy became obsessed with c!Dream after staged finale because of his desire for closure. He wanted, desperately, an explanation for his pain. c!Dream, unfortunately, was not at a place emotionally to be able to give c!Tommy a real answer. You can tell that c!Tommy doesn’t fully buy the “I’m a monster, I’m a villain, everything I do comes from a place of evil” mask (ha) he puts on and it shows in when c!Tommy assigns him “homework” on the first day in the form of the Why book. c!Tommy never truly gave up on c!Dream, in my honest opinion, despite the pain he endured and the fear he held c!Tommy wanted to hear c!Dream out. The tragedy is that it just took c!Dream too long to actually confront himself and come to terms with what he really wanted.
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i wouldn't say c!tommy's ummm obsession post-staged finale purely comes from that point in time or for that reason exclusively, but i think that the why of it all very much follows c!tommy doggedly every step of the way even when he's trying not to think about it. like, that was his friend, and all of a sudden he became someone unrecognizable, and tommy never gets a half decent reason why. c!tommy is...always kind of fixated on c!dream? like, from the beginning really, hence the "it's just you and me against dream" that echoes throughout the story long before exile is even a thing--it's just he started off a lot more sure about all of the pieces in this equation (himself) (tubbo) (the discs) (dream) and then is left at the end of it all staring at all of the pieces that have somehow become something completely different over the course of a few years. why can't it just be simple again. i miss when it was simple.
but yeah, for sure, c!tommy is one of the few people on this server that does go hey, what the fuck, doesn't that hurt? why are you doing this, that's insane, what? give me a reason. give me an actual reason. and c!tommy is also the place where c!dream stumbles, over and over again, to give a reason worth listening to--of course c!tommy thinks c!dream is obsessed with him, it's the only damn thing c!dream will tell him.
there's plenty on the c!tommy side that is also just, coping with everything by pushing it onto c!dream, which is kind of a mutual deal of theirs. hence the screaming past each other during that one stream in the finale and like, the nonsense that was you can't just tell other people they cant go into your land !!!! like that wasn't what lmanburg did. and c!tommy doesn't even want to kill c!dream when he's imprisoned until c!wilbur scares the shit out of him in limbo and he decides that there's no option--and that mission to Kill Dream follows them into the finale. but yeah, mixed into alluvthat is for sure a desire to know why things with dream went to hell