if you, like me, get so angry when discussing or debating current issues with ignorant/bigoted people that you can’t articulate your thoughts, here is a list of arguments i’ve seen so far defending darren wilson or going against the ferguson protests, with suggestions as to how to counter and links to helpful posts to support your argument:
1. “It’s not a race issue!”
Actual KKK waving a Confederate flag as they walk the streets of Ferguson, celebrating.
Darren Wilson might even be affiliated with the KKK
White Man waves a gun at children in a park, is taken into custody alive
More examples of double standards in favor of white people: James Eagan Holmes, various other (unnamed but fairly well-known) cases
2. “The officer feared for his life. It was self defense.”
Pictures of Darren Wilson’s oh-so-life-threatening injuries + full-body shot
Darren Wilson says he would do it again
Darren Wilson is 6’4” and 215lbs (needs source), in a vehicle with a loaded weapon. Mike Brown was an unarmed teenager walking down the street.
(Speculative) He got married while on leave, possibly so his wife wouldn’t have to testify if she knew something.
Wilson did not complete an incident report, which is a violation of protocol
Article about why Darren Wilson shooting Mike Brown was illegal no matter how you look at it
3. “Michael Brown stole from a convenience store. He was a thug and a thief.”
Statement from the store owner saying that no one called the police and nothing was taken
This is disputable and the time stamps on the video don’t sync up with the story.
The cigarettes he allegedly stole were paid for and there’s proof
Remind them that even if Mike Brown had done some petty shoplifting, that’s no reason for him to be shot six times in the middle of a street.
4. “The jury saw all the evidence, they know better.”/Something about insufficient/unreliable evidence.
“It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did” + only .0004% of grand juries fail to indict
All 4 eyewitness accounts of the murder in chronological order
Every piece of evidence in the case against officer wilson
Prosecutor supported Wilson, and other problems with the case
Remind them that even “people get charged with manslaughter when someone dies in a car accident” and Darren Wilson wasn’t even charged that
The National Bar Association and its president know the jury’s decision was bullshit
5. “The riots and protests are out of hand and unnecessary. It’s just an excuse to be violent and steal things.”
Video of protesters getting shot with (I think) flare bombs and tear gas by police. (warning: flashing lights and loud sounds)
Video of protesters quietly sitting down
Video of protesters peacefully but firmly chanting outside the supreme court
Video of the National Guard arriving with automatic weapons
Crips and Blood gang members preventing looters at the riots (from the first riots back in august)
Community working together to clean up the aftermath of the riots
6. “You can’t fight violence with violence, what would Martin Luther King say?”
“It is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots…..” -MLK
Remind them that as pro-peaceful protests as MLK was, he still got shot in the head.
If after all this, they’re still arguing in defense of Darren Wilson or the jury, just give up because there’s no way you can change the mind of such a complete fucking bigot.
Some masterposts I used that also have more information: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
If there’s anything I should add or fix, please let me know
This morning I purchased PlanB using the $10 off coupon which you can find here: http://planbonestep.com/coupon.aspx
Quinton Reviews’s video on the History Channel’s Hitler obsession is excellent, and this 1 and a half minutes does a better job deconstructing the superhuman aura people have built up around the Nazis than most academic papers on the subject.
If the Nazis were so great, powerful, and intellectually superior, they would have won the war.
Tuebl.ca is my new most favoritest site.
for people who don’t know, Tuebl.ca is essentially a FREE AND AUTHORIZED ONLINE LIBRARY WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD FREE .EPUB VERSIONS OF POPULAR BOOKS.
When I say authorized, I mean popular authors PUT THEIR BOOKS UP THERE FOR FREE BECAUSE THEY KNOW EBOOKS WILL GET THEM NEW FANS WHO WILL THEN GO ON TO BUY THEIR BOOKS.
I’m talking like John Grisham. Jacqueline Carey. Stephanie Meyers. Jeffrey Eugenides. FUCKING ANNA QUINDLEN. A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE.
that’s just the start. seriously. try it out.
it wont let me do shit bc i apparently have 81 gigs of apps clogging my c drive, but my largest app is 0.4gb?????? its not system applications either because system is its own segment of storage. wadda hell are you talking about
So in What Matters in Jane Austen, the author points out that Lizzie and Jane are constantly going off to have their own side conversations and gossip with each other, moreso than any other set of characters in Austen, and now I’ve decided a necessary feature of any modern au is Lizzie just CONSTANTLY texting Jane. Like the second any conversation ends she’s texting Jane about it. If she’s feeling particularly mean she’ll just text Jane while you’re still talking.
Fascinated by the number of dog people who hate wild canines and flat up think they are evil. You would think way more people would love coyotes and African wild dogs and (not actual canines but certainly dog like) hyenas.
Lol it doesnt matter if a cop shoots two times or trillion times, you learn in police school if somebody is a threat for you, you shoot him till he stops moving...
Let’s take a moment to take your law apart and analyze it:
Darren Wilson chose not to carry a non-lethal weapon as well because it was not the most comfortable thing
furthermore
Mike Brown was unarmed
these are Darren Wilson’s so-called injuries (THEY EVEN TRIED PASSING OFF A BIRTHMARK AS AN INJURY)
Darren Wilson stopped Mike Brown for jaywalking, and he had no information about him supposedly robbing a convenience store. The store owner even said that nobody reported a robbery and he doubts that it was Mike Brown who shoplifted 48 dollar worth of items from his store. No matter what the police tells you, no matter if they claim Darren Wilson responded to a call, no matter how many witnesses they ignore, we still have the word of the store owner and his clerks, which they gave out publicly.
Mike Brown supposedly attacked Darren Wilson. Darren Wilson decided not to use mace that he said he had on him, but to shoot Mike Brown 6 times.
Unarmed Mike Brown was no threat to anyone. Even if he struggled for the gun, which I highly doubt, he was shot from a distance, which suggests he was running away. From my understanding, he was first shot in his forearm, from the back, while he was running away. Then he turned around and was shot in his upper arm, while he was still standing. He was shot in his chest while he was falling down and in his head, while he was already down. This was proven by Cyril Wecht, and if you do not know who he is, look him up. He worked many high-profile cases and is excellent in his line of work. Do watch his explanation.
Darren Wilson is a trained police officer. He was trained to work under pressure and to know how to react in such situations. He is in no way an inexperienced young cop (or a 5 year old) who could have reacted wrongly because he never found himself in a similar situation. He is a grown man who described Mike Brown as looking like demon to justify his actions.
An unarmed 18 year old child. It. A demon. Hulk Hogan. And he said he would do it again. He would shoot dead an 18 year old boy who was running away from him.
Throwing this in as well because it’s important and not enough people are talking about it.
Not to mention, Darren Wilson’s most vocal supporters, the KKK. And he’s being investigated himself about being connected to them in ways he shouldn’t have been.
Frank Ancona, leader of the KKK, admitted to speaking to law enforcement in Ferguson off the record. He tried to take it back afterwards, which only made it clearer that Ferguson police has been working with the KKK.
And in case you failed to read this anywhere else (624 black men if you do the math):
Even though it now has enough signatures, you can still sign this petition to bring Darren Wilson up on federal charges.
IN CONCLUSION
YOU DO NOT SHOOT UNARMED BOYS UNTIL THEY STOP MOVING THE LAW NEVER SAYS CONTINUE SHOOTING WHEN THE BOY IS FALLING DOWN AND DEAD ON THE FLOOR, YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO INCAPACITATE HIM AND NOT KILL HIM
(all underlined text leads to other sources, do click on it)
EDIT: ADDING SOME NEWER INFO
A lot of the buildings being burned down and destroyed in Ferguson are owned by black owners. It’s the KKK’s work. A couple of looters aside, the actual protesters are not harming anyone or anything. Nothing is sacred to them.
THE GRAND JURY HAD AN OUTDATED LAW FROM ‘79 GIVEN TO THEM, INSTEAD OF THE ONE FROM ‘84
source
02/14/2025
incredibly funny to realise the US supports single-family zoning so much on the exact same material basis as the Wehrbauer system
I am travelling for a long time and I want to download some ffs on my Kindle, can you rec me something good and longer? Just please, I need happy endings. I of course have already put all yours on, to re-re-re-read. Because you are brilliant. Obviously. ALSO PARKS AND REC.
Hahahaha! Yay for all the Parks & Rec love!
Okay, guys, the call is for good, longer fic. I assume you’ve got “Performance” already, right? Here are some other recs:
Jupiter_Ash’s Tennisverse: http://archiveofourown.org/series/16847
Mise en Place by azriona: http://archiveofourown.org/works/896418
1electricpirate’s Applications and Practices of Basic Arithmetic series: http://archiveofourown.org/works/896418
The Heart in the Whole by verityburns: http://archiveofourown.org/works/301718
Left by lifeonmars: http://archiveofourown.org/works/639976
prettyvk’s Ink Your Name ‘verse: http://archiveofourown.org/series/100784
History, Repeating Itself by gyzym: http://archiveofourown.org/works/179622
flawedamythyst’s Skeletonsverse: http://archiveofourown.org/series/35165
You said longer fics, so I left out some of my absolute favorites because I figured you wanted the really meaty stuff!
If you’re willing to go outside Sherlock and Sherlock-related fandoms, here are my Inception recs:
toomuchplor’s Steinway!verse: http://archiveofourown.org/series/6054
Patience, a Steady Hand by Helenish: http://archiveofourown.org/works/170021
gyzym’s DomesticVerse: http://archiveofourown.org/series/5589
Okay, guys, what would you add??
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