Whenever The Truth Gets Out About Monarch Being Gabriel Agreste, A Lot Of People Could Assume That Adrien

Why are people overcomplicating how Ladybug should've said Gabriel was Monarch to Adrien, like it's JUST. FOUR. WORDS: "Your Father was Monarch," then she should've answered any questions Adrien has truthfully.

She doesn't need to remind him about everything Monarch did, because Adrien doesn't have fucking Amnesia. And she doesn't need to info-dump on him, either.

We've gotten both "Gabriel Agreste is Ladybug" and "Marinette is Monarch" in the first arc, so what if we get "Chat Noir is Lila" and "The new hawk moth is Adrien Agreste" in this arc

If I had a nickel for every time Bryce Papenbrook voiced a teenage boy, from a non english media, that got hidden that they're not really human and that their dad was/is evil, has an part of them externally that can kill them if it gets in the wrong hands, their twin ("twin") knew about who they were before they did, their twin ("twin") seems to be older but actually is the younger of the two, the "evil-version" of them has white hair, got adopted by their parents friend that seemed to have romantic feelings for the parent, their mother died because of they way they were born, people say they're similar to their mother, been referred to as a prince, are scared their power might hurt somone, and got animalistic features when they got their powers, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's REALLY weird that it happened twice.

I've always found it weird that Bug Noir said to reveal the truth to Adrien whenever she reclaimed the butterfly miraculous.

At first, I thought it was because she was scared he might be akumatized, but what would be so dangerous about him specifically being akumatized? She doesn't know Chat Blanc was Adrien, and he didn't have the rings on him, so there's NO excuse there. And it's not like he couldn't still be akumatized. He just lost his dad!

But then I remembered Mari said something in the lines of, "Marinette can't tell something only Ladybug knows" to Natalie.

That was when the realisation hit me.

It wasn't that he might've been Akumatized. It was that she thought she couldn't comfort him if she (Ladybug) told the truth to him exclusively, because Ladybug and Adrien doesn't have a close bond, and Marinette is not "supposed to know the truth".

Of course, it's a bit stupid of her because she could still comfort him as Marinette because he lost his dad, and who knows? Maybe Adrien would tell the truth to Marinette (or maybe even tell Ladybug to not lie to the world)

"Oh, but if you were in Marinette's position, you'd do the same as her" (calling Gabriel a hero).

I. Would. Not.

First of all, I do not like to lie. Whenever I do lie, I'll just come clean some seconds later because lying makes me feel anxious and bad.

Secondly, if my partners' dad imprisoned them, brainwash the entire world, put people's life in danger multiple times for months, use my partners face (which made my partner uncomfortable) on an AI softwere and (insert every other bad thing Gabriel has done), calling him a hero would make me feel sick to my stomach.

You can not assume that everyone will do the same because not everyone is the same.

Someone might have done the same as Mari.

Someone might've kept quiet about everything and let another person tell the truth.

Someone might've kept quiet and let the partner figure the stuff on their own.

Someone might've revealed the truth to the partner, exclusively.

Someone might've revealed the truth to everyone.

Someone, not everyone.

We are all different individuals with different upbringings, cultures, religions, families, ethnicities, nationalities, wants, needs, likes, interests, hobbies, passions, goals, dislikes, personalities, sexualities, gender, looks, skills, flaws, and the list just keeps going on, that makes us who we are.

YES!! THIS!!!

If anyone else than Ladybug tells Adrien, there's a high chance he'll start to dislike Ladybug and potentially get trust issues.

"It's not Marinette's responsibility to tell Adrien!" Then why does she make herself responsible for every decision made regarding what Adrien gets to know? If it's not her responsibility she shouldn't get to make any calls about it. You don't get to push a shelf over on purpose and then yell: "not my mess!"

Marinette made herself responsible. Now we'll just have to wait and see if the show will hold her responsible.

Marinette needs to learn that you can not just pass around leadership without noticing the team itself first.

Like, imagine if a King dies, then some rando becomes the next King, but not even the castle staff knew about the rando, and the rando just says, "The King said I would be in charge!" 😭

The first parallel that popped into my head about Lila and Adrien is that they're both good at disguises.

Lila has long, ginger hair with green eyes.

Daphne has glasses, black, medium lenght hair, and blue eyes.

Cerice has a brunette pixie cut and brown eyes.

Iris has blond hair in a ponytail and (I think) dark blue eyes.

There's the butler/maid outfit with black hair up in a bun and green eyes.

The new Hawkmoth is currently just a purple figure for us and even uses multiple voices to hide who she truly is.

Adrien is well, Adrien. (I can't really come up with something unique for him as Adrien)

Felix is identical to Adrien, so all Adrien needs to do to "be" Felix is just to change his hairstyle and wear a suit.

Chat Noir has a different hairstyle than Adrien and has cat-eyes.

Cat walker has green hair in a ponytail and has cat-eyes.

Aspik is bald. You can't even see his ears, and he have snake eyes.

Even when he's Chat Noir without being transformed, you can't be truly sure it is him because you can't really see his whole body (banana noir and when he used boxes in oblivio).

Luka and claw Noir knows Chat Noir is Adrien.

Luka and Ladybug know Aspik was Adrien.

No one knows Cat Walker was Adrien.

(Bunnix gets excluded because of time-travel)

No one has seemed to figure out Lila's identities. Heck, we don't really know who she is!

It's said, either by themself of other people, that they know multiple launguges.

Adrien knows French, English, Mandarin, Acient greece and Japanese.

Lila says she knows multiple launguges (she may have lied, she may have not).

There's also that they both know Non-Verbal Code/Launguges (I'm not sure what to call it).

Adrien knows Morse code.

Lila knows Sign Launguge.

Umm so I had a thought...

You know how Marinette and Gabriel are supposed to be foils, and there are clear mirrors in both their personalities and their ambitions. Except- you know, Gabriel is evil and power hungry and selfish, whereas Marinette is motivated by justice and is incredibly self-sacrificing.

What if Miraculous continues to draw this parallel between protagonist and antagonist, except this time not with Marinette... this time with Adrien?!

At first glance, there might be very little tying Lila (cerise?... for the sake of this post she is Lila) and Adrien together. But delving further there are actually quite a lot of parallels.

Adrien and Lila are both social chameleons who had been showcased by Gabriel to function as a figurehead for his company. They are both desperate to make friends and social connections at school (albeit for different reasons), have a preoccupation with Maribug, and both come from very mysterious/shady backgrounds. The main difference, again, between these characters is that Adrien acts with empathy and altruism, and Lila acts with maleficence and self-interest.

The Adrien and Lila parallel has actually been referenced a few times in the show, but what I find most interesting is the scene at the end of the episode "Ladybug" where Adrien makes his first threat to Lila.

This episode follows a pattern of nearly every Lila episode, where Lila does something and Marinette is powerless to act. And while it is shown in season 5 that Marinette does in fact manage to take Lila down, we as the audience are well aware that she is far from gone and will be coming back with new vengeance.

The thing is, prior to that season 5 episode, Adrien's threat is the first thing to actually work. Adrien understands Lila, by nature of his life I am sure, he is surrounded by Lila's all day. While we know that Adrien chooses to see the best in people and may take time to identify threats to himself and those he loves, once he does, he is well adept at handling manipulators. After all, he'd hardly be able to survive in his own home if he couldn't.

In seasons 1-5 it became clear that Ladybug, moreso that Chat Noir, was able to defeat Hawkmoth, because she understood the way he thought and was able to plan accordingly. Already in the London special, Ladybug was having trouble facing the new Hawkmoth. Notably, Chat Noir was not there.

I just wonder what the potential dynamic will be between Chat Noir and the New Hawkmoth and if in fact, they will be positioned as foils...

The flashbacks I get from this pose

I want Adrien to fake his death when he find out (on his own) that he's a senti, so that everyone who kept it a secret from him would realise they've messed up bad in giving him the rings while not telling him the real importance of them.