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Honestly, though. What's wrong with everyone complaining about the concept of the ENTIRE series..? Didn't you read the ones that came TWoTQ at all? There could not have any other scene as anticipated as the Joining in the book. Plus, Kieran and Poppy built an entire relationship. It wasn't slow, exactly but it was also not so abrupt as for people to not see it coming.

I did not find a single instance of 'emotional cheating' as some people are calling it. It was more trauma bonding that anything else and it was completely pure.

Only after Casteel comes back do they even think about it. Every single step, including the process of Joining, is discussed between all three of them and decided on. In fact, Casteel is ready to dive in while Poppy and Kieran slowly overcome their hesitation about the Joining.

Until the very moment it happens, Kieran gives both of them the option to turn back, no questions asked. It didn't happen at knife-point and he wouldn't have held anything against them. It was Cas and Poppy who could not imagine life without him who decided to go ahead with it.

Leading upto this, Kieran and Poppy did not have a single inappropriate scene. Not a single one. There is one scene, from the many where Kieran sleeps in her bed in wolven form, when he turns back to his mortal form to console her and he's naked. Even at this time, nothing happens. I think the feelings do develop and build slowly over time( if they even do, because they may or may not be romantic, as much as a soul link kind of thing).

I actually think that if Poppy and Kieran actually got together behind Cas' back( as some people keep saying), Cas would probably not mind. Because it would NOT be behind his back. Whatever Poppy feels, Poppy might herself not understand but Cas always has and always will. He may have known it since the very beginning.

Another thing that Poppy keeps repeating is that she's afraid to lose Kieran as much as Cas, and that's the main reason she pushes for the Joining. And Cas agrees with it and has brought it up before on many occasions before when they would've been Joined to him instead of Poppy. He was much more onboard with the plan, than the other two ever were.

Last, I promise, this is the last thing. Cas has never ever, ever been jealous of any Poppy-Kieran interactions. The very first time he, um, relieves her in the forest, Kieran is right there and quite obviously, within earshot which meant he had to know that Kiran would know.

Later, he holds onto a naked Poppy who was, um, busy, with Cas and not in her right mind and Cas doesn't say a word about it. Then when Cas is completely unable to think beyond his hunger and Poppy's helping him come back to himself, Kieran's there, too. And both Poppy and Cas realise that they missed him when he left them alone with each other.

Cas-Poppy-Kieran are soulmates. Maybe in a lot of different ways than the ones some people are able to comprehend. I really was disappointed with the hate the author was getting for her work. Even if you didn't like it, you could've just stopped reading. What's the use of taking it out on the author when she had already made repeated mentions of the events that took place in the story?

Hope people learn to read and interpret for themselves, and own up to their own decisions instead of blaming others. <3

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Umm,,, who said that poppy x cas is now poppy x cas x kieran? Their love for kieran is not the same as the love they have for each other 😭 how many more times do they have say this? Just because they are joined now doesn't mean that they are in a poly relationship (which is okay if they are but they're not). The atlantians had joined wolven and mortals far before poppy was even born and Jen never said they all were in poly relationships. Why do the rules change now? Because it's poppy and she can't have sex without being in love with someone? Why are you guys being hypocrites?

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Honest to Nyktos.

Kieran is like "why does Poppy ask so many questions" my brother in Nyktos you keep answering them.

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I have never seen a love triangle (square??) being done so well in visual media before like it's so.....grown-up and mature?? Idk what the right word is but none of the guys are insecure, none of them are jealous of each other, there are no weird mind games. They are childish in other contexts but they are all so grown-up about this one thing it's just so refreshing to watch. They just saw one stubborn murderous gremlin of a woman sauntering about and went.... Ah yes, I'm gonna be a love interest that is so healthy-

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TWOTQ SPOILERS:

If you are worried about the joining please read the book first.

See for yourselves. Don’t listen to the other reviews about it.

Once you do you will see many things wrong with everyone complaining about the joining happening.

1. Kieran and Poppy were not a thing before they got Casteel. Kieran would comfort Poppy not flirt with her. He is affectionate towards her because that is his best friend/ ex bonded partners wife and heart mate. Because of those things he loves her in his own way. I do not personally think that it is sexually romantic. It is more that he loves her in a respectful awe inspiring way. They have a respect and love for each other through Casteel. Maybe because Casteel and Kieran were once bonded there is some connection to why poppy and Kieran feel so loyal to each other.

2. They did the joining out of necessity to keep Kieran alive. Did you all miss that? They did it for Kieran. While having the conversation poppy said that if Kieran found someone he wanted to be with they would go through the joining again. Which I think is foreshadowing Kieran finding someone he will end up with.

3. After the joining is done and they all separate we see that Poppy and Casteel have their own room without Kieran. They do things without Kieran. If they were going to be a throuple don’t you think that they’d invite him? If JLA wanted them to be a throuple she would have had them fuck again?

4. Yes we do see Kieran have feelings for Poppy afterward. We don’t know if they will escalate. We don’t know if they are carnal feelings. He could just simply be in awe of his queen/primal. I personally cannot see them being sexual. Just because they fucked during the joining doesn’t mean they will again.

5. Kieran Poppy and Casteel have cuddled before. You guys are making a friendship sexual when it doesn’t need to be. Like the 3 of them needed each other before the whole ending and that’s what happened. Also if they wanted to fuck again they would have then but Kieran told everyone to go the fuck to sleep.

6. Casteel and Poppy are heartmates so it goes way deeper and it means way more then anything else. I do not see JLA making Poppycas into a throuple I’m sorry.

7. JLA Literally wrote about the joining for the past two books and you didn’t see it coming? Like she even brought up a 3some in Willa’s diary. Everything JLA writes has a purpose. You look back in FBAA and you can see everything has lead up to this moment. And even the ending of this book.

If you stop reading the series go ahead. No one is making you read these books. JLA is the writer and she can do what she wants it’s literally her world.

What isn’t okay is taking away her creative freedom and making petitions to get her to rewrite a story she doesn’t have to write. She literally could have said fuck you all and killed Casteel to make room for Kieran but she didn’t.

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it's not as if the bond between poppy and keiran came out of nowhere. they bonded over someone they have a deep connection with being taken from them.

i can't really say i understand the feelings around the joining because i think it was handled extremely well. i think that saying it's suddenly a poly ship is just factually untrue. let's remember they even said that if keiran found someone he wanted to live forever with them they would do the joining again.

i think that people upset with the post joining way they are are people who may not be able to get passed the monogamy-centric ideals of western culture to see that sex and love are a complicated beast.

it was a well done exploration of how sex and love come in all forms and i adored it.

i totally called poppy being a primal btw.

i love her powers so much, and it was so fun to see reaver and nektas again.

thank god isbeth is dead. fuck that bitch.