How cinder enters the world of crime? I know this feels a simplistic question but it also can adds layers to world building. Like, say he was kicked out of the Himura household at 15...what he would do? Join a crime organization right away?
Assuming someone took him in. Did he wanted do crimes or was his only option?
I ask this bc...many Himuras we see are either in shitty situations or in crimes. Rei did endure a crime against her. Geten is an attack dog and Mizumi is the leader of a gang(benevolent as they all may be...it's still a gang)
And my final question (s)
How Cinder reacts to possum? See, possum wants destruction for the sake of destruction and anyone sane would say "fuck you" to that. Even if Cinder was a malicious and evil person...there was nothing to gain with Shig. (I HC many capable villains scoff and turn down working with LoV even if they are fans of Stain. Dabi is the best one and to this day I don't get why he joins LoV.)
Would Cinder and Nine be on good terms or enemies?
I mean, when you're kicked out of your house to survive in the streets isn't like you get many options.
My guess is that Mizunami started from the bottom working for some low tier gang before leave and form his own group, aka the Cider House gang.
For the moment I can't give a more fleshed out answer to that specific question, but considering Mizunami aptitude after the prison break we can assume he at least enjoys being free comit crimes as robbery as much he wants, despite having a more noble side by avoid harm civilians. Perhaps he got the habit with the years, don't know really.
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No villain with an IQ of more than 2 digits would find Shigaraki a worthy option to work with, and we know Cider is way to smart for that.
If you think about it, not even the MLA soldiers actually liked Shigaraki as their new leader. They were pretty much against it but stayed loyal only because Re-Destro (a bigger idiot) suddlenly became Shigaraki number 1 bootlicker.
Why Dabi joined lov? Because Horikoshi wanted his dumb villain group but didnโt even bother to write a believable reason for that.
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I would say Mizunami and Nine would be in neutral terms all things considered.
Cider would find Nine to be way more dangerous than Shigaraki, because unlike crusty boy Nine is man with strong convictions and capable to do way more damage. And also his ideology remind Mizunami to his brother Geten, which isn't q good signal.
But from Nine side I don't think he would mind Cider that much. As unlike Re-Destro who has a similar mindset and will kill you for not join his cause, Nine doesn't seem to mind of people following him or no, after all his ideal world is one in which the strongest rule but he doesn't harm the weaks just because he can (as he didn't kill the heroes he stealed quirks or Katsuma dad for example).h
Never read that story, but there's the movie "I Spit On Your Grave" which is basically glorification of revenge from a woman perspective. Or also arguably Shinobu story is also a revenge that the narrative puts in a good light, despite Shinobu has her problems.
Anyways I get the point you tried to make there.
Would be funny if all that bad marketing for U.A cause many parents to take their kids out of that school. Well at least if the parents are smarter in this AU than they're in canon (cause after so many assesination attemps how nobody question why they still send their childrens to a death trap?).
Mizunami would get hooked into Izu the first second he sees her, but a slow burn will be fun to read and see how the sexual tension between them growns.
He can totally take Compress, since he's not really anything special in terms in fight skills and as far we know he can't compress non solid objects, so a water user would ironically be a big problem especially since Cider is a medium to long range fighter. The fight would be quite easy to Muzunami, who will also hate the annoying "magician" act of Compress.
I really don't care about Momo, so whatever happens to her is fine for me.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
Shigaraki is way too boring and passive to have any believable rivalry with anyone in canon. Most of his interactions with anyone end up being flat and predictable because no matter what the other character has to say, we know Shigaraki will only focus on his "haha destruction" bs and the narrative will favor him over such character which is usually more interesting.
Nine and Overhaul on the other hand are proactive villains with real goals and methods to archive such goals.
They would be perfect rivals because they're so different yet similar at the same time.
I like your comparison with L and Kira because that's exactly the kind of rivalry with chemistry you could get if got these characters sharing same space. The moments could write themselves I swear.
P.S: There's some fanworks of Nine saving Eri and rising her.
Idk how feel about Nine beint a paternal figure, but he can't escape from his heroic heart as much he wants.
If nine and his gang were the ones who met Overhaul, how different would've things happened? Would they have created a successful partnership? Would nine care about eri when he discovers she's the centerpiece, especially since she has a quirk as crazy as his?
Now you're asking the real questions here.
But think about this: how good a meeting between a group who believes in quirk supremacy with another group who want to erase quirks from the world can possibly go?
Obviously if Nine and Chisaki meet each other and they both found about their real ideals and motivations it can make A.M and AFO look like best friends in comparison.
Yet at the same time I can help but think Overhaul and Nine would be the perfect rivals.
Not just because of their ideologies and the contrast in the way they treat their followers, but their personalities could make for interesting non hostile interactions between them.
I can see for example Nine actually being interested on learn shogi and play the game with Chisaki, both of them exchanging ideas and despite obviously hate each other they would enjoy try to surpass each other. A sort of enemies chemistry and that I love being used as a trope between bad guys.
Kai may also found nice the way Nine dresses up with good looking suits and keeps a mask almost all the time, ironically he might feel somewhat comfortable around Nine because of his manners which would add a fun twist to their rivalry.
And Nine will probably interested to learn to learn why Kai have such a complex with quirks and why he having a such godlike ability like Overhaul can't appreciate the "blessing" of born with that perfect quirk, at least on his eyes.
There's millions of possibilities with these two characters so different to each other interacting.
As for what Nine would think about Eri if he meets her? I guess he probably will try to free her from Chisaki and raise her into his own beliefs, since Nine would see Eri as a divine being who shouldn't be controled by anyone.
At least Nine would be more nice to Eri, but that's a very low bar lol.
Megumi got this for his room:
Eepy baby
BIGGEST HEAR ME OUTTT
All For One.
An idea for the Seltzer Bunny fic... it's a headcanon I think makes sense for villainess Izumi. When she gets money, she uses use for important stuff and the rest...she donates to charity or hospitals.
She is doing what AM never really lived up to, doing a good deed without expecting a reward as she donates anonymously.
And Cinder does find out she does that...I do think that would impress him.
Just a hc Iยดll use in the fic.
But does A.M actually expects something in reward for his charity acts?
I don't think he even expects gets fame or love from the general population, as he showed to be socially awkward to receive the love of his fans.
And well, good for Izu anyway.
Cider will totally call her "Robin Hood" but not in a mean spirited way obviously, just a cute nickname once he starts knowing her better.
Can you at least write a scene from this AU? Like Izuku and Yo in the ring, facing each other.
Oh sorry, but I don't really have the inspiration or the knowledge to write the scene.
I would like being able to do since the idea is interesting, but I should investigate boxing first.
Is more like back in the day the only way to watch Naruto was on TV, but the cable networks in my country only had the first parts of Naruto and follow the anime on pirate sites wasn't really an option with middle 2000s internet lol.
I should watch it some day though cause I have good memories of early Naruto.
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Cider totally knows Izumi/Izuku looks at him and goes crazy, so he actually play with that and maybe accidentally He drops water on shirt as an excuse to take it off in front of our fav boy/girl.
Mizunami is a bit diabolical sometimes.
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You know? I never made the comparison between Cider and Compress but it makes a lot of sense.
Is funny how Cider intro is him saying they planned the steal operations for months to get the most cash without deal with heroes, but is notorious how neither him or his gang harm any civilians in the process. And not even after escape prison Cider attemps to harms anyone unlike almost all the other jailbreakers.
You also have Gentle as the well made version of Compress, because also a thief who tries to create spectacle but not harm civilians in the process.
Is ironic how lov fans always put Compress as the "sane" from the group, but that dude showed a lot of times to have sadistic tendencies and unlike his friends he has zero reasons to act that way.
Also tf was that scene of he putting Bakugou and Tokoyami on his mouth?
Tbh the whole idea of "my grandpa was robin hood" Horikoshi forced into Compress feels like a concept for a totally different character reporpused into the backstory of the only lov member without any background.
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Also the Humiras sure have an app like Tinder for selling their members, probably is on the playstore.
The whole cinderIzu is great and I welcome with open arms. For my au, I have an idea for them meet.
Again, BK is a footnote in her life and Izumi is not dedicating all her time and energy in thinking of him. (She hears how his quirk remains the same, no quirk awakening bs, how bk's attitude got worse and how Aizawa is sure BK is the future)
Izumi hears about the mpa here and there and ...is not impressed. She needs money, her group can't work by luck...they need ration and more, and Izumi is not happy ReDestro has "schools" for kids to learn their quirks...its just a camp where the kid learns how to use their quirk AND NOTHING ELSE (Geten my be alliterate here)
Stealing from Redestro is not something she can pull off on her own. She needs help to do this heist.
(the quirk schools aren't illegal, per se, but it rubs Izumi in the wrong way. She is right)
Enters Cinder. He shows up with his helmet, all gear up and...well, he too needs money and Mr. Youtsubashi is loaded and if he wants to make quirk schools, fine...let's rob the fucker.
Izumi gawks as Cinder removes his helmet. He is handsome and cute...she wasn't expecting this.
Lol
(I love a good mask reveal!)
I also live for the moments when a character takes of their mask and reveals to be hot, and Cider isn't the exception. I mean can you blame Midoriya for what him?
Note: Izu probably loves in particular the little scar Cider got in his eyebrown, he/her found that detail to be especially sexy.
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Is funny you mention the whole plot of Cider helping Izu to steal stuff from Re-Destro company, as I also have this idea of him making an operation to steal from a werehouse full of valuable tech and support items that Detnerant (I think that's the company name) sells into the black market.
They would have success stealing a lot of merch they later sell to get money, but also Cider found a particularly expensive prototype of a high tech glider he decides to keep for himself and use to compliment his surfing style. As Mizunami is really into surfing in my AU, like he seems to be in canon.
Oh I forgot to mention before but the vigilante name Cider/Mizunami will use for my AU will be "Splashdown". Be free to use it if you like the name.
And since you mentioned Geten here, do you think he will have some role in the story? As I mentioned before I love the idea of Cider being a Himura, but also he probably was rejected by his clan because his quirk is water instead of ice and the Himuras seems to be the kind of elitist jerks to would dishonor a child for born with a "imperfect" quirk.
Which would create a lot of tension between Cider and Geten, especially is they reconogice each other. Geten hating Cider for being "a failed Himura" and Cider will hate Geten because he's just a "an attack dog" for Re-Destro.
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How they make him look so badass yet beautiful while walking?
I don't dislike scarless Dabi, but I feel his scars are part of the charm. Without it he would look more generic.
Kinda like Shoto scar, it is just too iconic to take it away.
Perhaps the only thing I would change about his design is that his hair should be half white half red, like it was at one point of his childhood:
It would fit better in the narrative of "he always had ice powers inside".
Besides ironically Dabi is the only child among the Todorokis with a solid hair color, because the rest have some kind of red in some way.
Even Natsuo has red stripes in the manga but the anime deleted that detail.
This type of bodies need more appreciation:
Look I love big muscular dudes as much as the next guy, but there's something beautiful about skinny dudes as well.
Could she have both of them? If you're into poly relationships like I do...
Cider is just coded to be a bit goofy yet lovely dork who makes Izu fell in love because of how natural he acts all the time. He should probably only be himself rather than try hard on impress her like others will do in the same situation.
While is fair for her to get revenge on Bakugou, let Cider being the real men who protects Izu and helps to give BK a good lesson. After all Izu needs to be really protected by someone who loves her for once.
You can't imagine how much I love the Cider House leader guy...
A minor villain has no right to look so cool, badass and handsome like he does.
Also he probably got the best water quirk of the series.
Also he got so much sassy energy on top of having such insane drip.
Being one of his like 3 fans isn't easy, but still love him.