The Whole CinderIzu Is Great And I Welcome With Open Arms. For My Au, I Have An Idea For Them Meet.

However, I do wonder how and why AFO came to the conclusion that he needed a vessel powered by hate to steal OFA.

Like I know it's established that the will of OFA prevents the quirk from being stoled, but how AFO even knows that info?

Isn't like there was a moment in which AFO tried to steal OFA but the will thing rule prevented it. All the times he failed on steal the quirk it was because it was already passed to someone else and the previous user was running on the embers.

The only time something like this this happens is when Nine tried to steal the quirk from Deku in the movie, yet Nine interpret it as lack of starage space in his own copy (for obvious reasons he's not aware of the existence of the vestiges).

I feel this is kind of a plot hole unless I'm missing something.

And yet despite add super regen to AFO original body was pointless (dabatable) after the face injury, not doing it before getting his skull smashed still feels like a dumb move.

Yeah body failing and all, but with regen AFO would still pretty much invencible in the meanwhile as his new body was getting ready.

Not to mention, now we have the confirmation they copied Overhaul from young Kai but instead of use its healing properties to full extent they just used the quirk to create Decay makes all the plan seem even more stupid. How tf AFO and Ujiko would waste such a god tier like Overhaul on making it more shitty by getting rid of the best effect?

What are the reasons why All For One wanting a successor before his Injury? This is a question that I have never seen before so may give some reason why I think he might have done it: One is that "Life Force" Quirk may be reaching it's end. The possibility that it may end soon is big problem for All For One so he is planning to get a younger body like Orochimaru or a better Quirk to keep him young then "Live Force". Two is, and I don't know where it comes from, but in the Wiki, it says that "All For One's body cannot properly contain Quirks of newer generations,". So he might be afraid he might not be able to gain more power anymore in the future. So what do you think?

You're half right. All For One's body was failing, both in lifespan and function, because extensively damaged by All Might. So damaged that not even "Super Regeneration" couldn't fix him and he had to be on constant life support. And it was stated by Garaki that All For One was having trouble with Quirks of the newer generation. That he had a harder time controlling the more complex Quirks. Both of those could be a factor. That All For One wanted an immortal body to rule the world forever, giving and taking whatever Quirk he wanted. However, the successor plan was in motion decades before his injury and there wasn't anyone who was a threat to his empire. The real reason was because he wanted to use Tomura's hatred to get "One For All". "One For All" was annoying at first, but was becoming a major problem to All For One, to the point that it ended up killing him. He couldn't beat the person who had it and he couldn't take it either. So he wanted to build up and use Tomura's hatred to take "One For All", finally ridding him of the biggest obstacle in his path.

I sort of love the idea of Cider being the kind of guy which mindset is "Thiefs used to have standards" while he beats the shit out of Compress.

I think he and Gentle would actually appreciate each other moral codes.

Nagant is the team? I usually pair her with the Shie Hassaikai, because her interactions with Chisaki make me appreciate her more, but I get the idea of her being with other villains with morals.

His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.

I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.

Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.

No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".

They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.

That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.

We need to talk more about the fact Tengen paited his foot nails

Also they like to tease us showing his legs...

I mean his actions are encapsulated into his ideology. I'm not a lawyer but that sounds like the kind of legal technicism a court would use in cases like his.

Besides if MHA really had a system which actively supress contrary ideologies they wouldn't allow books like the "Quirk Doomsday Theory" or the book of Destro to be legally distributed to the public.

That being said I still find ridiculous how they thought Chisaki was worth of being put in Tartarus if his quirk was gone and the Hassaikai didn't even exist anymore.

But outside of that people shouldn't overthink and try to make MHA world look like 1984 in disguise.

Wait, Overhaul ended up in Tartarus for his dangerous ideology? Not for the whole "torturing a child and using her body to manufacture bioweapons" business? All of that and they threw him in the Hell Prison for fucking wrongthink?

If you show this to someone who doesn't read MHA or don't have much context about the story, would they guess these are two separate characters?

Lol, it would be a fun experiment.

The resemblance between Yoichi and Nine is uncanny.

I would like Decay more if it never lose the initial range limitation that made it at least require some brain and flank the enemy to have the chance of instakill.

And that critique about Midoriya is dumb because you can say the same about almost every character.

Like who really isn't quirk reliant on this series aside of a few exceptions like Knuckle Duster or Giulio Gandini?

Even people like Aizawa and Stain who base their combat skill or support weapons are still quirk reliant to keep up with the more dangerous villains.

And yes, Cider is literally a smarter guy that out supposed main villain. Think about that level...

Is a shame Horikoshi only used him for glaze Bakugou and Todoroki or their hero debut, because realistically it's true that Cider was way more prepared and better equiped for a possible fight.

Yet HK really needed to give that moment to Shoto.

Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...

Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.

Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?

Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.

So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.

In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.

It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.

I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.

But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.

Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.

Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.

Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.

I will die on that hill.

And it's kinda depressing that the manga peaked in terms of villains right in the half of the 2nd act, and for the rest of the story we have... well not so good antagonist to fill the space left by Chisaki.

Fun trivia: In the character page for Nine in the Volume Rising, we can see in Horikoshi sketches that the palms of his hands were supposed to have the little holes that allow an AFO user to physically steal quirks.

Same holes All For One and Shigaraki have:

Yet, in the movie itself the holes are totally absent from Nine's hands despite his gloves are clearly designed with that specific function in mind.

I guess the production just totally missed that detail in the translation from Hori sketches?

First of all, here's the fanfic in case you want to give it a read:

I really love that idea of AFO watching at Muzan and his demon moons, and he being petty as fuck like always inmediately would want to have that as well.

Technically he have nomus but they lack that rule of cool factor of the demon moons, so of course would try to response with super soldiers.

Ironically AFO already have soldiers with numeric order, that being Nine, Six, (Ten)ko and the rest of the unknown prototypes. He probably would try to use that for emulate the demon moons, but will fail epically because like in canon all AFO servants always reveal against him because unlike Muzan his security methods suck.

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Zenitsu fights are visually cool despite every one of them is the exact same. I mean is kinda his whole thing that he doesn't know any other form of thunder breathing, but since he doesn't get to many fights it doesn't get old.

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The demon that shares VA with crusty boy is Rui, a great villain btw.

And yeah in my AU crusty would just want mindless destruction. Nobody will feel bad for him, because fuck him. He's just an obstacle in this story.

Okay... maybe he will have sobe story about his human life as Tenko Shimura and he wanted being a demon slayer and save people like Nana, who was a hashira in the past and died in combat.

But a demon attacks and kills the Shimura family and turns him into a demon as well.

Sad and all, but nobody will know the story, he still gets humilliated and killed and goes to hell while his family is in heaven (evil laughs).

What do you think about another crossover AU for SeltzerBunny? This time with Demon Slayer.

It's kinda easy to adapt the respective canon quirks of our dear couple into Breathing Styles.

Cider/Mizunami obviously would be a water breathing user, and for this AU I like to think he would be tsuguko of Sabito who survived this time.

While Midoriya is a wind breathing user (cause you know air force and float and green aesthetic... whatever) who was saved by Masachika (Yeah he's also alive at least for now) from the lower moon who killed his mother.

That lower moon would be no other than BK, who is a promising demon in ascension who is capable of generate explosions like his quirk in MHA.

And this would make Midoriya quest for revenge his principal motivation.

Still thinking about the details for this AU and who should be the other characters adapted into it, as MHA having such a big cast compared to DS force me to pick only the necessary lol.

@nyc3 hello

So while I did saw the first season of DS and do think it's well paced and better than MHA in every way -not a big achievement to behold. I didnt saw the other seasons, I got spoilers here and there. My point is how some of the names here are unknown to me.

That being said...I do like more aus for this ship.

Cinder is still a thief in this au or he seeks revenge?

How they meet and how is their dynamic?

(Almost finishing chapter 1 of my seltzer bunny fic)

I haven't seen anyone commenting about something weird on how AFO is represented in the recent art by Horikoshi:

That being the fact this is the "prime" version of him with his face restored, but wearing the final war outfit and maskless. Something clearly not possible in the story itself, as obviously that outfit was gone when he used rewind on himself for avoid die by the fire of Endeavor.

But the interesting part is that this isn't the first time Horikoshi draw AFO in this particular way, mixing his restored look with the purple jacket outfit.

The other time was in that cover in which he's facing Deku (a battle that never happened in the story, or at least not directly against his main body).

In that other art AFO also has a unique look for his mask not being seen in the story, that looks vaguely like it was still broken and almost melted by Endeavor but pieced together again while still being red hot.

Also do you notice in neither of those arts AFO has the rewind effects over him? Considering it was the plot reason he recovered his face in the first place, is a bit weird that the art of Horikoshi doesn't present him being under rewind.

And yeah I know all this can be attributed to simple creative freedom and Horikoshi though mix both designs was cool or something.

But I can't help and make my theories about this.

Can these arts be a sort of "what if" scenario?

As I said before is interesting to remember that Deku never actually fight against AFO directly on his real body, they never even encouter each other in that state for that matter, they only interacted via ShigAFO.

So maybe Horikoshi at some point had a totally different display for the final battle? One that involved Deku vs AFO and a different use of rewind.

Considering in both arts "prime" AFO appears maskless with his outfit intact, I wonder if the real revelation moment when the heroes managed to destroy his new mask wasn't seeing his potato face, but he already got his face restored offscreen.

Which could also explain why Horikoshi didn't drawn AFO with the rewind effects in the art. As probably the idea of him being on a time counter that will banish him wasn't originally part of the story and only was a leter addition.

So in this alternative scenario rather than go back to fight ShigAFO directly, Deku instead for some reason ends up in front of the original AFO and they have a real battle, just as it was represented in the cover art.

Don't know how the story should continue from that point, as it probably would change a lot more of how the rest of the final battle will play.

Sketches of Nine's armor. This design goes hard.

I wish we could see more of him in the movie with just the full armor without the suit over it (though is still looks cool af).

Also notice how in the sketch there's seems to be a sticky substance under the armor plates, that detail is absent in the movie.