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“the dc slate is full of c-listers no one is excited for these characters1!11!!1” the reason marvel had iron man rights to begin the mcu in the first place is because iron man was a total c-lister compared to marvel’s big three
Felicia has nictating membranes in her eyes, and only needs to blink once every one or two hours
they were too distracted to notice they had a tail (or three tails, rather)
This panel is so chaotic (Amazing spider-man vol. 1 #330)
Hi! Just followed your blog and I love your art. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for getting into Black Cat comics? I’ve mostly only seen her in Silk and wanted to get into reading her storyline more but don’t know where to start. Do you have any recommendations?
Ahh omg tysm!!! I definitely have recs for Felicia!! 😸 I’m not going to include every appearance she’s ever had but my rec list is gonna be pretty heavy bc she’s my fav 🫶🫶 I’m also gonna include some non-canon comics, miscellaneous media, and fanfics I enjoy because i have so many recs LMAO
Earth-616
I’m gonna try to keep these in order but no promises!! This begins with Fel’s first appearance and ends with her latest appearance.
Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed #22 (This is just a little background on Felicia’s creation and design, but to save you a little time you can read about it here.)
Amazing Spider-Man #194-195, #204-205, #226-227
Spectacular Spider-Man #74-79, #84-91
Amazing Spider-Man #246, #256-258
Spectacular Spider-Man #94-100, #112, #115-117, #119, #123
Amazing Spider-Man #288-289
Spectacular Spider-Man #128-129
Amazing Spider-Man #329-331, #341-343, #346-347
Web of Spider-Man #80
Spider-Man Unlimited #11
Amazing Spider-Man #369-371
Spectacular Spider-Man #204-206
Felicia Hardy: The Black Cat #1-4
Web of Spider-Man #113, #128
Sensational Spider-Man #29-30
Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil that Men Do (This is probably my most rec’d comic of all time definitely read this)
Marvel Knights Spider-Man #1-12
Sensational Spider-Man (2006) #25-27, #33
Amazing Spider-Man #606-607, #612, #621-622
Wolverine & Black Cat: Claws
Heros for Hire #2-4, #6-8, #14
Marvel Divas #1-3
Amazing Spider-Man Presents: Black Cat #1-4
Amazing Spider-Man #630-633 , #648-651
Wolverine & Black Cat: Claws 2
Amazing Spider-Man #677
Daredevil (2011) #8 (This is the issue the “my super-villain origin story” panel comes from el oh el)
Superior Spider-Man #20
Amazing Spider-Man (2014) #1-6, #16-18
Patsy Walker a.k.a Hellcat (2015) #7-14
Deadpool: Back in Black #3
Silk #9-10
Spider-Man (2016) #5
Star-Lord: Grounded (2016) #1-6
Power Man and Iron Fist (2016) #10-15
Spider-Man: Miles Morales (2016) #15-21
Venom (2016) #159-160
Defenders (2017) #1-9
Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man #300
Amazing Spider-Man (2018) #9-10, #16-17, #20
Symbiote Spider-Man #1-5
Amazing Spider-Man (2018) #77-78
Death of Doctor Strange: Spider-Man #1
Amazing Spider-Man (2018) #87, #89
Women of Marvel #1
Black Cat (2019) #1-10
Black Cat (2019) Annual #1
Black Cat (2020) #1-10
Mary Jane & Black Cat: Beyond #1
Iron Cat (2022) #1-5
Amazing Spider-Man (2022) #6 (She also is in #5 & #11 but I actually wouldn’t recommend this run and am only including #6 because it has the Peterfel B-day kiss that I thought that art of was cute 😿)
Mary Jane & Black Cat: Dark Web #1-5 (Only #1 & #2 are out atm but I’m including the next three issues for future reference!)
Non-Canon/Not Earth-616
Spider-Man Noir (2009) #1-4 and Spider-Man Noir: Eyes without a Face #1-4 (Obviously I wouldn’t be a Peterfel main if i didn’t suggest SM Noir. My user is literally Earth-90214 I basically have to.)
Marvel’s Spider-Man: The Black Cat Strikes (This one’s actually a tie-in with the Insomniac Spider-Man DLC: the Heist!!)
Spider-Gwen #5, #26, #33 (Black!Felicia is a pretty popular hc and one both me and my mutuals use so a canonical black Fel variant is definitely on my rec list.)
Exiles vol 3 #9 (Another WOC Felicia Hardy and probably one of my favorite Felicia variant suits! She’s not a major character but I like her panels so I’m including this on the list.)
What If…? #4 (1989) (Follows Felicia after Peter dies because of bonding with the symbiote suit.)
What If…? #21 (1989) (What if Peter married Felicia)
Misc Media
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows, Spider-Man: Edge of Time, and Insomnic’s Spider-Man: The Heist/ Silver Linings DLC are all games that have Felicia in them!! I believe that the Spider-Man 2 (2004) game and TASM games from 2012 & 2014 also have Fel in them but I haven’t watched those play throughs so I can’t say for certain how much content there is.
There are some cut scenes from TASM 2 that feature Felicity Jones as Felicia working for Harry Osborn! Unfortunately we never get to see her in costume but she still does a great job and I wish we got her as Fel in TASM 3 🥲
Spider-Man: the Animated Series (1994): s1 eps 2-7 & 10, s2 eps 1-2/6-10, s3 eps 4-6/12-13, s4 eps 2-7, s5 eps 1/7/8-12
Spectacular Spider-Man: s1e10, s2e12
Spider-Man (2017) s1ep4, s2ep1 (I actually can’t stand this show, but its the only adaptation that portrays Felicia’s glowing, cat-like eyes seen in her first appearance so for that, it gets a pass.)
Fanfics
Felicia has a pretty small ao3 tag with <1,500 works, but there are some fantastic fics that I definitely suggest reading (and authors you should definitely follow)!!
@the-cat-and-the-birdie has a Post-NWH Peterfel/PeterMjFel fic that I’ve really been enjoying and is currently ongoing!!
@seek--rest !! Seek’s mostly an mcu/spideychelle writer but has some really fantastic Felicia-centric/Felicia appearance fics up that i definitely suggest.
Both of @traincat’s Insomniac Peterfel fics are great reads that are on my (very short) list of fics i regularly re-read.
@justmattycakes’s Insomniac Peterfel series is another series on my re-read list! 10/10
any fic in @splendidnothings’s peterfelweek ao3 collections/works. Going thru the @peterfelweek blog or tag in general is a great place to find fics and art.
Naturally I have to suggest myself as well 🤭 I just started a new Peterfel series that I’m looking forward to updating soon! It’s a comic au without a solid timeline and is mostly just interconnected oneshots that center domestic Peterfel. I’m also working on a Felicia-centric fic based on a really cool headcanon that @peterbwatsonparker sent me about psychic/medium Felicia that I’m hoping to post in the next few weeks!! I also have a decent amount of headcanons posted on my blog that never made it into full fics, but my most popular ones (and my personal favorites) are my Mutant!Felicia headcanons.
Obviously these are just my personal recs, so I’m definitely missing some stuff, but if you’d like a complete list of Fel’s mainstream comic appearances you can find that here!!
Peter Parker should be mobster hot, I think. Like, he’s canonically good-looking, but crooked nose lends him a strong hint of eau de peril. Vaguely dangerous looking man with a camera
Mary Jane by Carlos Gómez
Faire patte de velours
Black Cat | Spider-Man
Helena Masellis (art)
they’ve had a long night
( @peterfelweek 2023 prompt "Dancing in the Dark”)
You blinked.
Whatever. You can’t even see what you’re doing!
Amazing Spider-Man Vol 1 677: “The Devil and the Details”
Marvel Comics #1000: Because Of Her
Do you think Peter Parker also falls into this missremembered thing? I've seen plenty of people saying he's this happy go lucky guy even though he's not like that in the comics
Oh yeah, definitely, though I think Peter’s a bit of a reverse of Johnny in this regard; Johnny gets oversexed to attempt to make him an easier character to understand, whereas Peter gets undersexed, partly, I think, to sell him as a cinnamon roll. (One thing that’s hard to deny when you read Spider-Man comics is that this is a character who really likes women.) But Peter is a much more popular character than Johnny. Johnny was maybe more popular than Peter for like a hot two minutes in the early 60s. And the bigger a character is, not even in a fandom sense but in a pop culture sense, the easier it is to accentuate or to invent aspects of their personality and then have them stick. I mean, I feel like everyone feels like they know Spider-Man, because he’s Spider-Man! He’s insanely popular! I know I felt like this and then because of that I totally accepted the soft Peter fanon of my day (I don’t know how far back you would have had to go in fandom to escape it, but my gut feeling would be pre-Raimi) and when you’re getting into a character, you’re probably seeing the popular posts first, and the popular posts with Spider-Man comics are usually quippy, goofy panels posted without context or sources, like so:
(From a oneshot called The Many Loves of Spider-Man, by the way!) And I mean, it’s a funny sequence, with or without context, and you don’t really need to know anything about Spider-Man to get it, so of course it goes around.
But that’s just one tiny piece of a huge canon, that also includes stuff like this:
So if those panels above gets 100k notes and this Peter beating the Kingpin in a humiliation/intimidation/vengeance power move in Amazing Spider-Man #542 gets, let’s be generous, somewhere between 30 to 100 notes, even though these are both the same character, people start to associate him with a funny gag and not with beating the hell out of the Kingpin, because that’s what’s being seen. And if he’s funny, he must be funny all the time, in this specific way, he can’t have a dark or a serious or an angry side, because that doesn’t fit with the snapshot image of this character. Apply as needed to any other side of his personality beyond “quippy.” And I’m not saying any one person believes this, I’m just saying that’s how the myth evolves. It’s just how things spread. And like, if it was just misinformed fan opinion that Peter Parker in comics is a sweet cinnamon roll who would rather die than hurt anyone, like, fine. But we’re living in an age where fandom is more widespread and more visible than ever before, and the people creating new content for this character can see those posts and go, okay, so that’s what people want, with the expectation that if you give people what they want, they will then give you money buying it, and now I’m grumpy about Spider-Man all the time because he’s being written more and more soft and his banter has totally lost its edge and you know sometimes you just want to read about him shirtless and beating people up.
tl;dr yeah I would say fandom misremembering a character en masse does apply to Peter as well as Johnny, it just applies to Peter in very different ways than Johnny.
canon peter parker would push fanon peter into a locker
Thrill-seekers
Peter and Felicia | Symbiote Spider-Man and Black Cat
Cliff Chiang (art)
So I've only recently gotten into Spidertorch because I read Amazing Spiderman #680 so I went on TUmblr and read your fic and now I'm hooked. Do you have a list of MUST read comics for spidertorch shippers? That'd help me so much with my newfound obsession
I definitely do! Since we’re talking 50+ years worth of team-ups between two of Marvel’s biggest heroes, this is far from a definitive list - I mean, they literally meet in Amazing Spider-Man #1. Mostly I’m just highlighting my favorite issues. If anybody else would like to add onto it, please feel free!
Marvel 616
Recs under the cut! Surprising nobody, it got long.
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do you have any pointers in writing peter's voice? for fic purposes ofc. like, are there any particular words he uses a lot? nicknames? i know he jokes a lot, but like, in a specific way?
Thank you for asking about the specifics of how Peter jokes, because something that’s been frustrating me a lot in recent comics is how wrong they’ve been getting it. Everything I’m about to say refers specifically to 616′s Peter Parker, for the record. So my first tip with Peter’s voice is a general one, and it’s to put as much steel behind his voice as you can. Write him like a man who has spent half of his life being able to bench press a bus and who can sense a gun and move to stop it before its drawn.
On top of all of that, he’s a certified genius and worse yet, he knows it. So you know, he’s going to be kind of obnoxious. Peter has, over the years, stated three main reasons for why he makes jokes in the costume: the first is that it centers him. The second is that it helps to keep civilians calm. The third is that it throws whoever he’s fighting off their rhythm. It’s useful to keep the reasoning behind him making a joke in mind while you’re writing him – is he saying it to get under someone’s skin or to lighten the mood? How Peter jokes with people in his life vs how the jokes he throws around while he’s fighting are also very different things, and I think the inability to separate them from each other is a big part of the dilution of the character’s voice. Consider the greater scene when writing a joke into his dialogue – does it fit the mood? Personally I’d rather fewer jokes and him written like a real character than seeing him as a perpetual humor machine who spits out rambling dialogue regardless of context. Hickman’s writing for him in FF (2011) #1-11 is really standout in this regard; it’s a serious book, so by in large Peter acts seriously within it. I think funny gets unfairly equated with immature a lot, and immature is not something Peter traditionally embodies. I also think writing Peter as genuinely insecure, especially as an adult, is an easy mistake to make – he uses self-deprecating humor not infrequently, but it’s not really a sign of how he views himself. He’s just an obnoxious, sarcastic New Yorker. (This isn’t necessarily a useful piece of advice, but if you can familiarize yourself with strong New York-based humor, I find it helps a lot. But I live twenty minutes outside of the city and my mom is a Brooklyn native and I know this isn’t really possible for everyone.) I’ve talked a lot about the Jewish coding of Peter Parker, but his wit and how it ties into where he lives plays a big part of this: Jewish humor employs wit as a weapon. Peter is punchy both physically and verbally. He’s sharp-tongued, observational, and witty. In fights, he tends to be very direct:
(Spectacular Spider-Man #71, #105, and #140) Or alternatively, extremely mocking:
(Spectacular Spider-Man #67 and #145) The dialogue here is funny, but it’s pretty distinctly sarcastic and really aggressive. If you compare it this scene where he’s joking with Mary Jane to try and put her at ease in Amazing Spider-Man #511, you can spot the difference pretty easily:
Here he’s talking loose and a little ramble-y, weaving a ridiculous story, a little awkward. It’s not aggressive, it’s not sarcastic. (But again, note the beats here: statement, period, statement, etc, then he slides into the rambling. It’s punchy.) Write the humor and how he speaks around his mood and who he’s with. If he’s in a good mood with someone he loves, he’s verbally very gentle. If he’s in a bad mood – and he has a definite temper – and he’s around someone he loves, while he’d never intentionally be physically violent with them, he can verbally lash out.
(Spectacular Spider-Man #191)
Marvel Knights Spider-Man #5 – he’s technically right; he hurts people for free. :P But he’s very good at hurting people, and that extends to doing it emotionally. He’s got a sharp tongue along with that hot temper and he’s not always great about holding it. Don’t be afraid to let him be an asshole if the situation calls for it.
Referential humor, or jokes involving current (or what the author believes is current) pop culture are a really new addition to his repertoire and one I’m not a big fan of; traditionally, he’s depicted as someone who is behind the times when it comes to media, and also as someone who, beyond the fact that he’s too busy for it, doesn’t really care. Humor is an entirely subjective thing, but I find in canon these kinds of jokes come up when the writer isn’t all that confident in his voice, so they write him around a joke they’ve come up with instead of writing the jokes around him. As an added con, these kind of jokes date the work – a good joke will be funny now and it’ll be funny in 20 years. A joke that requires the audience to have specific pop culture knowledge relevant to the times is going to get lost in translation sooner or later. Don’t over explain your jokes, either, as a general rule when writing comedy. It can be tempting, but if you’re not sure the joke isn’t going to fly under the radar, it’s better to cut it than to segue away trying to clarify it. Trust your audience to get it or leave it out. Don’t feel pressured to joke all the time, either – like I said, he’s not a perpetual joke machine and writing him like that makes him feel like less of a real character. He can be very serious. When he’s extremely angry, he drops the jokes – and occasionally words altogether – entirely.
(Amazing Spider-Man #539.)
Apart from the jokes, I don’t know if there are particular words he uses a lot. He’s got a pretty good vocabulary, so you can pull out whatever words you want for him. He does like a good (or bad) nickname. He calls Aunt May “pretty lady” all the time, and Mary Jane “pretty girl” and a whole host of other terms of endearments like honey/baby/sweetheart/hot stuff etc (nice job calling your wife the same thing you call your best friend the Human Torch, Peter). He’s a big terms of endearment guy – he’s used “kid/kiddo” with multiple partners, which is vaguely appalling, but that’s him for you. I know terms of endearments can be a bit of a mixed bag with writers and readers. Some people like them, some don’t, so if you’re not big on them I don’t think anyone would fault you for leaving the honey/baby/sweethearts etc out of his dialogue, but he does canonically use them with his significant other. (He and Felicia have canonically referred to each other as ‘baby’ while not in a relationship, so do with that one what you will.)
(Amazing Spider-Man #86, Spectacular Spider-Man #154, Marvel Knights Spider-Man #5, Peter Parker v2 #2) One other thing I think it’s important to note with Peter is that he’s deeply, deeply romantic and I think on a very instinctual level, he’s a comforter. If someone he loves is in pain or worried, he wants to make them feel better and he wants to fix the situation, and that’s going to come out in his voice along with his actions. He’s a fixer, in and out of costume.
This all just stuff I keep in mind for myself when writing him, but for me he’s a very instinctual character – if a line feels right, go for it. Good luck and happy writing!
i just think modern spider-man comics would be vastly improved if they gave peter his motorcycle back
peter parker: secretly spider-man’s boyfriend since 1962
Wait why do you hate Harley/Parkner? Seems harmless to me
I don’t know how or why this ask came to me today but you know what, I got time.
I actually having nothing against the character of Harley Keener. He’s a literal child in the MCU that showed up for all of (5) scenes at best. Tony was an asshole to him, called him a pussy and was generally Not Very Cool as the Adult™️ in the situation. Just a plot piece for Tony’s development that in a just world, would’ve just been that.
But he isn’t.
The sheer amount of fan works that were created for and developed for him is both a sign of creativity, of the joy of fanfic of expanding something out of nothing, and also unequivocal racism.
And that is where parkner comes in.
There’s a thing in fandom called Two White Guys, a trope that has existed long before parkner ever did and will continue long after the heat death of the universe. Name a fandom and people will find the two white guys to obsess over, create fanfics for, create meta and art and history for… and have absolutely none of that energy for the canonical women + POC in the main white character’s world.
Peter Parker in the MCU has an entire cast of people his own age who are also POC. Tell me that there’s any other reason than racism that mostly white girls would see ALL of those characters, pass over them entirely (with the excuses that they don’t see the chemistry, or think they’re better off friends, or don’t know how to write checks notes teenagers), and instead decide that Harley Keener, a kid from another franchise in the MCU that Peter has never met before, is gonna be his one true love?
I’m a multi-shipper at heart but if you’re genuinely telling me that picking out the (1) white guy over literally every other POC that not only knows MCU Peter but has actual relationships with him on screen, isn’t an example of fandom racism than you’re probably white not seeing it for what it is.
Made even worse by how parkner as a fandom is to the POC in MCU Peter’s life. You can absolutely write two white guys smooching without being a sexist, racist POS.
I’ve yet to encounter it for that fandom.
Because if you have to make MJ or Ned have another marginalized identity that somehow magically makes them not interested in Peter Parker, do you actually care about representation or are you just a white girl looking for an excuse to bring the white dudes together?
Because if you have to demonize, make them abusive, or straight up MURDER MJ or Ned so that Peter is available and available for the white guy, you’re on my shit list.
Because if you argue with your whole chest that you “don’t see the chemistry” between MJ and Peter but write exclusively the white boys’ long and beautiful relationship when they’ve never even met, than you’re just a racist.
Because if you tell me that Ned is Peter’s BEST FRIEND and I just DON’T SEE THEM ROMANTICALLY but you’re easily able to write Harley in as Tony’s adopted son, Peter’s best friend/boyfriend and making him totally at ease in NYC when he’s from bumfuck nowhere and also a literal child with zero background, then I call bullshit on what you don’t see and say that you just don’t want to.
If it seems “harmless” to you, you’re probably white and have never had the unfortunate experience of reading fic after fic after fic (tagged PeterMJ or Peter & Ned or Peter & Flash) where the POC are beat down, abused, dismissed or completely ignored for the sake of some hick white boy from another franchise.
I actually used to LIKE Harley as a character, in theory, because I go feral for creativity in fan works. It is GOOD FUN to write something from nothing.
I have lost nearly ever bit of that like because of how many times I have personally seen, experienced, and been harassed by parkner fans— to the point where i have a new blog is in no small part because parkners (and most of irondad) is more concerned about protecting white girls racist fanfics than POC.
So no. I don’t like Harley. And I don’t like parkner.
And that has everything to do with fandom.
what is kevin feige’s plan to make mcu peter parker comic accurate (death threat sender)
femmeslash edits 2/? - Cindy Moon x Felicia Hardy
“Black Cat trusts me. And I feel horribly guilty about betraying her trust. Why?”
Felicia going to handle business in Europe for the week and leaving Peter alone with Ben and he just goes full blown helicopter parent. He makes a brand new high-def baby monitor, even though they already have a perfectly good one. He puts web bumpers on every sharp edge in the house. He throws out all of Felicia’s candles because they’re a fire hazard despite being unlit. He webs up any furniture that isn’t bolted in place so it can’t fall. Felicia comes back and the house is in shambles but Ben is clean, happy, and healthy and Peter looks proud so she says nothing.
peter really be like “I can’t deal with this right now, I’m gonna go be violent on the streets” and literally no one can stop him
I miss it when peters apartment looked like a hot mess