I’m So Sorry Are We Calling The Shit With Mirage?? And Catalina??? Cheating? Like In NTT When She KIDNAPS

rogue fans and nightwing fans need to unionize bc i truly cannot stand the inordinate obsession with their asses anymore. we need to start killing people

i am tired of people acting like duke hates dick, he doesn’t did he feel betrayed ? yeah but honestly he got over it pretty quickly he actually admires him

NO YOURE SO FR!! For this

I agree 100%

Also listen I haven’t read much of Duke bc he was introduced in the new 52 and I tend to avoid literally everything to do with the new 52 after i picked up the outlaws (it took me 1 (one) LOOK at my precious meow meow Kori to lose interest)

But I have read bits and pieces and literally everything I have seen shows no dislike? Or hatred or anything really?

Like?? Idk

I made a post about Duke being Dicks favorite bc he deals with his own shit and has a parent! So that means Bruce doesn’t have to try and fail so dick doesn’t have to pick up the slack

And like 40% of the comments were like (Duke hates dick tho) and like correct me bc once again I think outside of like Harper? And Kate? Duke is prolly the character in the bats I have engaged with the least media of.

But like I have not seen anything that states like a solid hatred of Robin 1

Stephanie brown 🤝 Dick Grayson

Being the only likable bats

Since the comics won’t do it does anyone have proper dick and Kori fics. Not dick and Jay and also star is there. Not outsiders Kori. Not past Kori/dick

Just good old fashion nightstar, robstar, nightfire

Cutesy get back together content? Rekindled passion? The never broke up? Dealers choice but please I’m starved

okay so i am genuinely confused as to why we are acting like jason was not angry as robin i mean a big part of his whole character was that he had a strong sense of justice and sometimes went too far joker himself said he was more brutal than the first robin don’t get me wrong he was a sweet kid but taking out the fact that he was still too violent sometimes takes a lot out of his character

Tbh I think it’s a fandom thing

Jason was angry as Robin

But he wasn’t the Angry Robin(tm)

It’s like how people went “oh dick isn’t this dumb himbo who needs Jason to come save him” so then everyone went “he is filled with rage and wants to /can murder everyone with ease he will feel no guilt”

Like people showed evidence that Jason wasn’t this rage filled murderous loser as Robin. Therefore he’s a sweetie pie who never did anything wrong ever.

(However let’s be so real if we are making quick shitposts, then yeah if you wanna make Jason more complicated/ highlight the extreme change he goes through from Robin to redhood it’s just easier to make him the sweetie-pie Robin)

++ THO it’s not all fandoms fault

Jason’s Robin run is arguably the one that goes through the most extreme changes

The flying Todd’s? Where he was diet Grayson

To the tires

To the orphanage to the tires

And so on

So it’s hard to piece together.

++

I think it’s also to do with their relationships to Bruce

-Tim and Dick both chafed under the Bats control and argued with him about it.

- Dicks favorite hobby seems to be calling Bruce out on his shit in various loud and dramatic ways

-tim had the YJ and dick had the titans

-Jason especially post death is more used as this tragic rough around the edges sweetie who disobeys once and gets blown up for his troubles

Anyway that’s my 2 cents I could be entirely wrong here I just go here lol

AND THIS IS WHY THE

“I need distance from you this is toxic” fics don’t work (I however love them plz send me some)

Because

They will try to murder each other, beat each other bloody, torture each other.

They’ll degrade each other publicly and ruin each others lives

Then they’ll go for a burger together

Bro every time Bruce fucks up Dick sneaks metal blocks into boxing gloves while switching between excitedly whistling and humming “the bat is going down the bat is going down, I smash his face in every place the bat is going down”

Jason stole dicks costume (nightwing this time) and murdered people in New York with it. Risking Dicks at the time only healthy relationship (Clark Kent) then stole back his Robin costume (scaly green short shorts and all) and went to beat to death the other Robin and write shit on the walls in blood

Everything Tim Drake has said to Stephanie brown would get any man punched, bound and publicly whipped. And the shit he said to dick During battle for the cowl??? he was 80% of the way through reanimating John Graysons corpse to tell dick he was disappointed in him throughout that whole arc. And everything that ever happened during the Red Robin run is not only added to shit that we apparently needed in the Geneva convention but assumed it would be common sense and people wouldn’t do it

Damian: tried to kill every

Single

One

Of

His

Siblings

And not only are all of them friendly to each other

Not only do they team up

No no they fucks hang out

Like willingly text each other and go ‘hey let’s get a burger’

I need to talk to people who like the same flavor of batfam dynamics as me. Dysfunctional but loving, maybe to the point the rest of the fandom gives us side eye. I'm talking platonic BD/SM, them overprotective over each other.

Those type of fics of the non con threats without anything actually happening.

Where do I find my people

Not “Only my reading of canon is correct” or “Interpretations are subjective and all valid” but a secret third thing, “More than one interpretation can be valid but there’s a reason your English teacher had you cite quotes and examples in your papers, you have to have a strong argument that your interpretation is actually supported by the text or it is just wrong and I’m fine with telling you it’s wrong, actually.”

Dickroy is them sparring, dick beating the absolute hell out of Roy, and then kissing him so Roy cant be mad at him.

No but like imagine if Dick liked his coffee Turkish (kid grew up in a traveling circus and bc he’s so ethnically ambiguous in canon I headcanon him as being vaguely from everywhere) and not only does he like his coffee Turkish

Him and Talia have the exact same preferences, down to the fact they both prefer walnut baklawa to dates with coffee (superior choice argue with the wall)

They sip it the same way, prepare it the same way

Skim the top the same way

Same thickness

And ofc neither has any clue bc they hate each other and they’re absolutely never sitting down for coffee together ever

But Damian meets Dick Grayson who drinks and prepares coffee the exact same way his mom does and just one sip and he’s less homesick

And it’s adorable but also hilarious but ofc Dick and Talia have the exact same preferences

And if he ever brings up the way Dick likes his coffee Talia looks grudgingly agreeable and is like “ah so the boy can occasionally have sense, shame he doesn’t use it for anything worthwhile”

And when he tells Dick that his coffee reminds him of Talia’s Dick looks vaguely ill and tries to switch to plain black for a month bc he absolutely refuses to have anything in common with his biggest op

Jason finds it hilarious but the only person Jason is allowed to sit and have coffee with is Dick and Steph. Him and Tim together? In a casual setting with caffeine.. esp Arabic coffee cuz we don’t play with out caffeine yeah no too much chaos

All the Batkids switch to languages or dialects Bruce doesn’t fully understand when they’re shit talking him

Alfred struggles like hell with the coffee tradition bc it’s violently against every thing he’s trained for as a butler so Damian gets annoyed bc Alfred keeps politely refusing him when he tries to pour him a cup.

So he enlists his siblings to use the most extra SFX, and optical illusions to trick Alfred into having the first cup

In my Arab region (I can't speak for the others, but I'm pretty sure they have similar things. Add your stuff if you do!) Coffee time is kind of sacred and is tightly regulated with heavy traditional rules. Especially so for the male populace.

Coffee makes the man! (Literally, I can't stress this enough)

Men and women alike are trained from a very young age on how to make and serve their coffee. A coffee with a good colour is a bright sign for your guests, and the way you serve is very telling of you.

Doors are ALWAYS open for guests, and HUGE halls are prepared to accommodate them (they can reach hundreds, depending on your dad's popularity). A household's head is a very blessed man when he has children/grandchildren because he can brag about them by showing their serving skills off. Those children will be scrutinised and judged according to their coffee serving manners. It's a very integral part of a charming character's traits for us. So, parents, especially fathers, are very strict about this.

Aside from guests, families have daily coffee time for themselves, too! It's very respectful to serve your mom and dad coffee. So it's expected from you.

Considering Ra's personality, serving him coffee as a grandson would be a nightmare.

Imagine Damian refilling the finjaan again and again in front of an elegantly sitting Ra's until he gets it right? Imagine him waiting (while standing, maybe for an hour or so) for Ra's to finish his finjaan so he can refill it again? Imagine how LIVID Ra's would be when Damian accidentally fills the finjaan to the top (a message that says, are you satisfied, yet? Get out! In my region) imagine Ra's asking Damian to serve coffee for his villain allies?!! Arabs and non?? And imagine people getting to know and hear about him from his coffee serving, like a good Arab son, before they know him from his sword?

Also, when he finally lives in the manor and sunset arrives and Batman is sitting by the batcomputer, deeply focused, and then is surprised by a finjaan presented to him because it's coffee time?

Damian would be very confident and proud of his coffee making and serving skills he would expect from Bruce nothing but sipping and asking for a refill, because his father should know his manners.

Bruce would know nothing about this but would, of course, sip (not drink! Drinking bad!!!) without question, and will continue to accept and sip every. Single. Day before patrol without knowing what is happening but going along with it because he's pretty sure this is Damian's way of bonding.

Which is not really true because Damian is only performing his duty as a son. He never really understood the core meaning behind this tradition because for a long time now, the art of Arabian Coffee was only a skill that was expected from him and a part of showing good grace. But as days pass and the number of people being served coffee increases and coffee time becomes a routine before each patrol for the whole family, when dates and snacks and small talk and occasional laughter join in, the very meaning behind this tradition clicks with him, and he serves it with a smile.

Dick now the same age Bruce was when he was adopted, now executing 20 perfect backflips in a row:

Jason, 6 years younger than him with actual magic unable to stand up without joint pain: …what the fuck

Bruce: mhm

Jason: this is so unfair

Bruce: finally we agree on something my boy

Jason tearing up: shut the fuck up

Dick on his hands:

Alfred, grabbing an ice pack: "Honestly Master Bruce, what were you thinking trying to keep up with a ten year old?"

Battinson, impatiently batting away the icepack: "Alfred I'm in my prime--" *all joints crack as he stands up*

Dick, completer of ten back flips in a row: "That didn't sound good."