I Thought Of Dio Who Would Show Up Later (after Ody And Menelaus Would Be Married For At Least A Few

I'd love to know what you think of Anticlea and Ctimene!!!

Menelaus would probably be a good husband who would care for her and give her tons of gifts but at the same time he would absolutely be overprotective!!!

Imagine him complaining that a basic greek armour is too short and is exposing her too much hahaha

Ody probably has her rebellious moments where she pretends to go to meet with some princesses only to cause chaos in disguise hahaha

And I bet Dio would be stubborn as hell. He would look for any way to get closer to Ody but ever since he welcomed her by kissing her hand, Menelaus was ready to draw some blood. Meanwhile Sthenelus and Euryalus would do their best to stop their brother from potentially starting a war over the omega hahaha

Ody would have Menelaus wrapped around her little finger with only exceptions being situations that could possibly put Ody in danger.

What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?

Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)

There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool

1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)

2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)

3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.

4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.

If you were your own Titan Odysseus lore, how would you go about it?

I mostly had one main idea. Where Odysseus would be a titan of peace (in the sense of calmness)

Odysseus would be a gentle titan who enjoys pretending to be mortal just to listen to stories shared by travelers. (That's how he gained most of his wisdom)

He enjoys some tricks and practical jokes but never something too cruel.

He and Hypnos would be friends and they would often be associated with one another for obvious reasons.

He's seen as a patron of caretakers and one of his symbols is chamomile.

His main story would come from how a god fell in love with him but he kept avoiding the advances with his words. Because of it the god decided to steal Eros' arrow and poured the gold from it into Ody's nectar. Once the titan drank it his tongue turned gold and he was forced to answer all advances with words of love.

To avoid gods/nymphs/people forcing upon him romances Odysseus started wearing rags and wrapping himself in bandages, looking like a sickly beggar so nobody would be interested in him.

He fell in love with Penelope who despite him looking displeasing she would always visit him. They would share stories while she was weaving baskets and he was carving in the wood.

Even then the Spartan princess would show her affection by gifting him instruments or singing love songs allowing the titan to listen to confessions without the need to say anything in exchange.

Helios decided to help the pair by whispering to the princess Ody's secret. His curse and his fears related to it. How no matter how much he loves someone he might not be able to ever be honest with them.

And so Penelope did something unexpected. She asked the titan to remove her tongue. Odysseus was terrified when he found out but then he understood. She did it so her words would never accidentally force Ody to say or do something that he didn't mean.

Once fed ambrosia, Penelope became the goddess of silence. Two beings with domains seen almost as inseparable.

Sometimes a traveler might hear in the middle of the night a soft humming of a woman and a melodic voice of man singing softly, almost whispering sweet words of love he has towards his wife.

Going back to that one au where Penelope is Scylla, how exactly did Ody's crew end up meeting Penelope? Also, how did Ody's family take the news that their son married a monster ?

Is Telemachus anything like his mom? How was he born?

Since he was a kid Ody loved traveling and adventures. He would sail to the furthest regions just to experience something exciting.

When he was 17 he sailed alone and ended up on an island without any city. There he met a beautiful lady near the shores. Ody offered her most of the meal he was making for himself which made her blush. They talked for some time and when Ody woke up in the morning he noticed a basket full of fish.

He stayed on the island for around a week and every day he met with Penelope. He asked her for the name of the island so he could find her again but she hesitated saying that he would not like to see a true side of her. He jokingly asked if she's a siren and she said that it would be easier if that was the case.

A month later Ody was sailing in hopes of finding her again. He didn't hesitate to risk his own health to do so.

What he didn't expect tho was meeting a bunch of pirates who wanted to capture the beautiful prince. It was then when a monster with six heads appeared and devoured the pirates.

Odysseus was shocked at first but then he recognised those beautiful violet eyes and without any hesitation he called her "Penelope?"

It turns out that it is her true form. The human one is usually used to lure people in (she still needs to have contact with seawater) but she fell for the mysterious prince who offered her food despite risking being hungry.

It was more than obvious that those two fell in love at the first sight and with that they arrived together in Ithaca where they got married. Odysseus built for her a palace that had streams of ocean water on the floor that allowed her to move comfortably.

Laertes and Anticlea were more than confused but seeing how happy their son is they couldn't do much about it.

Telemachus could be easily mistaken with ocean nymph due to the shape of his ears. He also has sharp teeth and lightly glowing eyes.

And how he was made...well...when two people like each other very very much...

What do you think Diomedes bonding attempts with Telemachus were like?(If it was either before he gained immortality or after he gained immortality). What do you think Telemachus would be like as a Titan?

Diomedes went through an awkward stage of trying to understand how babies work and then trying to understand how godly babies work hahaha

I imagine Dio taking Telemachus on trips to cities and showing him things that his parents might not understand too well. He is like a big brother when it comes to answering questions.

Once Telemachus was old enough he would absolutely teach him how to spar and use weapons. Also Diomedes is the one who accidentally becomes a bad influence to baby Telemachus (since Diomedes is a little hot headed and didn't learn tact)

Telemachus would not be a titan but a god (even if he would be a child of titan Odysseus). He would be curious of people and the world like his parents. He enjoys pretending to be a human just to join other travellers on their way.

He would be the type of person who would randomly make a backpack journey around the country only to tell you about it once he's back. Also if he sees something he finds cool he WILL drag one of his three parents to show it.

He is also a prankster like his father, but while his dad would mess with people by scaring them a little or making them trip, Telemachus would instead come up with random gossips, make your tent fall a few times before you can build it correctly or he would add something to your food/drink that would make your tongue blue. (It represents innocent accidents that might happen on camping trips)

I agree that Athena would fight Apollo. The only problem was when the heats started because now Ody didn't yearn for any alpha but for one specific.

Because of it for a year during heats Apollo was allowed to join Odysseus for those few days to ease the situation.

Apollo of course went over the top. He would bring the best foods, play music and take Ody to some beautiful private spots (anything to make Ody fall for him).

Ody was asked to join the courting of Helen so he would find another Alpha for himself so he would not be dependent on the sun god.

Also because of all the times Apollo tried to slip in nectar and ambrosia, now Ody has a huge distrust of anyone who wants to feed him.

Once he marries Penelope she helps him regain some trust and helps him feel comfortable again with telling what he wants (since he used to be too scared to tell Apollo "no")

How about Omega Odysseus who was secretly courted by Apollo (not eldritch one). When he was a teen (before Penelope) he used to train archery in the favourite spot in the forest. There one day Ody witnessed a beautiful hunter similar age as him who would ask to join in and even help Odysseus improve his techniques.

Athena sensed that something was wrong and she flew to her champion but it was too late. She witnessed a magically created field of flowers whose smell made the young omega overwhelmed and in the middle of it was Apollo who took the form of the alpha so she could bite the omega he fancied.

A year later during the courting of Helen, Odysseus kept his neck hidden. He didn't do it to be more presentable to Helen or Penelope but because he still felt uncomfortable when trying to explain how he got it.

Interesting 👀 go on

My take on this is that Athena is gonna fist fight her brother

And that Apollo 100% going to try to make Odysseus immortal after claiming him

So how exactly do god pregnancies work? And how different is they're aging process compared to humans when they're born? For someone like Penelope who was human before then turned into a goddess I imagine this might be quite confusing for her.

It mostly depends on god and what form they have when "trying for the baby". That's why Helen was born from an egg.

If they take the shape of the person it means it will be a normal human pregnancy. (For example what happened to Hermes and Dionysus).

Things get complicated when it's between gods/titans/inhuman creatures. Then the pregnancy can be something as abstract as a child simply appearing as a representation of their love (for example Anteros) or a child might skip the entire pregnancy or process of baby making when it embodies some emotions or past grudges (Hephaestus, Athena, Erechtheus, Ovids' Pegasus). Sometimes it might even be something very abstract (Erechtheus once again), very simple or a little confusing.

Penelope should not be too worried. Ody isn't too freaky so the weirdest thing that might happen is Penelope laying an egg.

When the child is born it mostly depends on if it's going to inherit the godhood. It doesn't always happen, even with children of two gods. If the child inherits the godhood it will quicker grow from newborn to child (around twice as fast usually - Hermes is exemption , not a rule)

Gods that are born normally are usually just kids that grow up without anything too weird. Their strength isn't usually the problem since if their parents are gods it shouldn't bring them trouble.

It makes me wonder how everything would be once Ody would be pregnant.

How it would affect everyone.

Also how would the Trojan war change.

Let's say that pact somehow still exists and Agamemnon is the one to take everyone into the battlefield.

Would the brothers argue over taking Odysseus or not? Agamemnon might be prideful but he knows that he needs her as the tactitian

What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?

Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)

There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool

1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)

2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)

3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.

4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.

Why is God Odysseus so shy around people?

He is an over-thinker hahaha

Ikr also a blend of "people are so delicate! I need to be careful!" and "I don't want to be too pushy like other gods so how am I gonna do it?"

Hi...I'm that person who wrote you the long comment about Ody dying instead of Achilles...

I love this idea of yours!!!

Oh god the tragedy!!! Priam probably saw his son as someone good who did everything that was needed for his people and now when he wants to retrieve his son's body he is forced to face the "monster" who killed his son only to discover it's a grieving child.

And referencing in your story how Agamemnon seemed to question Ody being Achilles' father...What if Achilles during the war tried to avoid being called all the baby names by his dad because he wanted to be taken seriously by all the older kings and generals?

Achilles would on purpose keep his tent further from his father's, go to other camps and where he would spend time with Patroclus, go hunting with literally anyone but his dad and suddenly....his dad is gone.

He guards his father's body preventing it from being buried (Athena would keep Ody's body intact like gods did with Hector's). He does this because he can't accept his dad being gone. He placed Ody's body in the tent of the Ithacan king as if he was sleeping and still had a chance to wake up.

And then Priam shows up. The Trojan king wanted to believe that Achilles was a monster but he sees a scared child who wishes to be hugged by his dad.

They make an agreement in the end.

And finally when people are able to convince Achilles to let Odysseus go, to have a proper burial so he can find happiness in Elysium he goes to his father's tent and starts looking through his thighs and he breaks down.

There were carved wooden toys. Almost the same ones he had in his childhood. Odysseus was probably making them in free time for Telemachus hoping to give them to him some day. Achilles chuckled with teary eyes remembering when as a kid he begged his parents that if he's going to have little siblings, nobody is going to take his toys.

He looked further and in between wooden toys were carved combs, tools and figures of warriors...Odysseus was making gifts for BOTH of his sons. Achilles had to stop himself from crying.

To distract himself he looked at papers and maps on the desk. There he witnessed plans to invade Troy. An idea of a trap with hidden soldiers inside, then he gazed at the wooden toys...he had a plan how to end this war.

When Helen was with them, Achilles refused to see her. He knew he wouldn't blame her for his father's death, and seeing (/hearing) the way she cried hearing about Odysseus' passing, he knew she already blamed herself more than enough.

But what hurt Achilles the most was realising how YOUNG his father was. He was a teen dad. They had around ten year gap in age. Achilles was in his twenties, people around him would call him a kid and yet now he's a similar age his father went to war. This man had an entire future before him and it was taken in one fight.

Now he truly understands why his father always hated war.

Because in war there are no winners...just survivors.

What if Odysseus died instead of Achilles. Wouldn't that be fucked up

Like Patroclus dies, and then he kills Hector, and then his dad dies. He now has three corpses in his tent. And Priam comes to beg for Hector's corpse and tells him to think of his father. But his father is right there. He's dead. Your son killed my father.

Let's hope he at least pays child support now hahaha

Does Hermes change after the entire Ody situation or does he still sleep regularly with mortals?

He stops for like a few years but then 100% starts up again