I'm Really Fascinated By The Idea Of Agamemnon Pushing Odysseus And Menelaus To Marry.

How far do you think one can go down the rabbit hole of what ifs? Are there any two outlandish to consider in the world of Epic the musical?

It all depends on imagination and some boundaries. For example if the "what if" has literally NOTHING to do with characters and story you are basically writing something completely different.

Some of my favourite fics are a simple "what if" that is followed by a long chain of consequences. They are a lot of fun and it's nice to see authors considering a domino effect this big. (My Illiad fanfic started as a simple question that snowballed into something bigger)

For the same reason I'm not the biggest fan of stories that are just a copy and paste of the lyrics of Epic songs.

What did Titan Odysseus, Penelope, and Diomedes do as a couple? Considering Ody's abilities made it hard for them to be around him for a short period of time before they became deities, how did that work?

When Penelope and Diomedes were mortals they would have a very active first day with Ody and then calm second. Ody would then leave for a few hours and the cycle could repeat.

For example with Penelope they would play around trees, dance etc in the first day and in the second they would have a peaceful day during which Penelope would weave and Ody would carve in wood. Or they would both play instruments together.

With Diomedes they used to spar and play a lot of "tavern" games and later do something like fishing.

Also it's not like they could stay for too long with him before they got married and became gods. Penelope was a princess and she was expected to be home regularly and Diomedes met Odysseus when he was a soldier and a king. Ody usually had to be the one to remind them about their duties.

Going back to that one au where Penelope is Scylla, how exactly did Ody's crew end up meeting Penelope? Also, how did Ody's family take the news that their son married a monster ?

Is Telemachus anything like his mom? How was he born?

Since he was a kid Ody loved traveling and adventures. He would sail to the furthest regions just to experience something exciting.

When he was 17 he sailed alone and ended up on an island without any city. There he met a beautiful lady near the shores. Ody offered her most of the meal he was making for himself which made her blush. They talked for some time and when Ody woke up in the morning he noticed a basket full of fish.

He stayed on the island for around a week and every day he met with Penelope. He asked her for the name of the island so he could find her again but she hesitated saying that he would not like to see a true side of her. He jokingly asked if she's a siren and she said that it would be easier if that was the case.

A month later Ody was sailing in hopes of finding her again. He didn't hesitate to risk his own health to do so.

What he didn't expect tho was meeting a bunch of pirates who wanted to capture the beautiful prince. It was then when a monster with six heads appeared and devoured the pirates.

Odysseus was shocked at first but then he recognised those beautiful violet eyes and without any hesitation he called her "Penelope?"

It turns out that it is her true form. The human one is usually used to lure people in (she still needs to have contact with seawater) but she fell for the mysterious prince who offered her food despite risking being hungry.

It was more than obvious that those two fell in love at the first sight and with that they arrived together in Ithaca where they got married. Odysseus built for her a palace that had streams of ocean water on the floor that allowed her to move comfortably.

Laertes and Anticlea were more than confused but seeing how happy their son is they couldn't do much about it.

Telemachus could be easily mistaken with ocean nymph due to the shape of his ears. He also has sharp teeth and lightly glowing eyes.

And how he was made...well...when two people like each other very very much...

Short "myth" about Titan of Peace Odysseus.

After many days Dionysus finally found a perfect spot for his cult to celebrate. It was a small island full of fruits, flowers and other breathtaking sights.

He let his people and satyrs alone for a day while he would gather the wine needed. What surprised him was that once he was back, his people were asleep. Even when they woke up they would act too calm to enjoy a party.

Dionysus tried again and again to make them active. In the act of desperation he called out Apollo to help him.

The god of music at first laughed at the god of wine, claiming that he's so boring that even his followers mellowed down.

But suddenly the same thing happened to Apollo's followers as well. His musicians would only play lullabies and his dancers only moved slowly in embrace.

Buty gods tried to find the source of it all and it was then where they found Titan Odysseus sleeping in the nearby field of flowers.

Narcoleptic titan probably planned only to nap for a short while but black or loud wildlife on this island created a situation where nothing would wake him up naturally and now everyone was experiencing an effect of his domain.

Both gods tried everything to wake him up but nothing was helping. The river was too shallow, warm and calm to wake up titan and most animals were unwilling to help.

Finally out of desperation Dionysus lured in the loudest goat on the island and Apollo used its horn to turn it into an instrument noisy enough to awaken their friend.

They blew at it with the full power of their lungs. It was heard by a nearby island as well and even Helios would almost trip from his chariot, being startled by the instrument.

But it worked! Odysseus woke up. With slow movement he stretched his limbs. Seeing tired looking Apollo and Dionysus (they are tired since they tried to wake him up for days) he asks if he can help them with anything. The two gods explained the situation which made Odysseus embarrassed. He apologised and promised to leave the island, but Dionysus invited Ody to come back in three days. He would be able to enjoy some fun and music and he would be a huge help in calming down drunk followers of his.

The gods and titan enjoyed their time with mortals and the world was introduced to new instruments. The horn 📯

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A new chapter of "Sing, O Muse, of Agony" is out. Let's enjoy different flavours of fluff and angst. 🫣

What if god Odysseus was the son of Poseidon? How much would that would change in Ody's life?

A LOT would change. Poseidon would be a helicopter parent to his son. Ody as a god of safety would focus on assisting sailors and shipwrecked people, but Poseidon would punish any man who tries to take advantage of his innocent son.

Ody would live on a hard to reach island and any nymph/god/siren/etc that would potentially inhabit it would have to be approved by Poseidon.

The reason why is because Ody is due to living near the sea he always helped people lost there but sadly some sailors out of desperation would want to do unspeakable to the beautiful young looking man with wings.

Odysseus would have wings similar to a seagull or albatross. He is also more sheltered so he relies on stories shared by people to know more about the world.

It is almost like a currency to him. You can ask him a favour and he will accept if you in exchange tell his an interesting story that he didn't hear before.

Odysseus would meet Penelope when she was sailing with her family and she accidentally fell overboard during a storm. He helped her and took her to his island because she had no idea how to explain the Ody location of Sparta. So they would spend a few days together and at night Ody was flying and trying to locate her home.

Once he did it he took her to safety. They fell in love and Ody promised to visit her but also he warned her to not try to seek him or Poseidon might punish her.

He was visiting her once a week but her cousins started to suggest that he just has another lover on his island. She didn't believe them but once her father wanted to marry her off she decided to risk everything and swim to Odysseus.

Poseidon was about to strike her with his trident but Ody shielded her with his wings. Penelope seeing it started to worry and tried to help Ody despite being in danger. Poseidon was impressed and allowed her to be with his son but she wasn't allowed to invite her family over. (There would be an additional "myth" about that). She became a goddess once she reached her twenties so she would be in a similar "age" as Odysseus.

There would be a story where Jason and Argonauts accidentally landed on Ody's island where the young god helped them and told them that they can take any food but they can't steal any treasures or stay for longer than two nights. They at first agreed but one of them got fascinated by pearl jewelry and stole a necklace. Also Jason forgot that they were there already for a day when Ody explained the rules and because of it they stayed for a day too long. Because of it they stumbled upon angry Poseidon who assumed that they wanted to hurt his son. They promised that they didn't touch him but Poseidon told them that he will only believe them if the thief who stole the necklace reveals himself and experiences a proper punishment. At first they wanted to blame Heracles since he would most likely survive it but then even started claiming to be the thief. Impressed Poseidon allowed them to go but as a punishment he moved their boat so their journey would take longer than needed.

how i imagine poseidon (who i believe can feel when people invoke not only his name but the ocean as well) reacted to hearing antinous plotting to kill telemachus and dump his body (parts) in the ocean

*up on olympus in apollo's infirmary*

poseidon: *recovering and enjoying peace after athena had left a day ago*

poseidon: *to himself* ahh finally some peac-

poseidon: *feels someone invoking the ocean*

poseidon: *focusing on who's saying it* who on gaia is...is that coming from ithaca...

poseidon: wait- ITHACA?!?

poseidon: *fully focuses now*

antinous: *in the ithacan palace*

antinous: cut him down into tiny pieces...

poseidon: *listening in full now* cut wh-

antinous: ...when the crown wonders where the prince is-

poseidon: the prince? yoU MEAN ODYSSEUS' SON?

antinous: only the ocean and i will know!

poseidon: *in full panic mode* OCEAN?!

poseidon: *now attempting to get out of bed in panic* HADES NO, I AM NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS I-

apollo: *coming to check on his uncle after hearing him shout*

apollo: uncle wh- *sees poseidon attempting to get out of bed*

apollo: *hurrying over to get him back in bed*

apollo: uncle calm down! you're gonna rip your stitches!

What if Poseidon wants to make Ody's experience in the human world miserable because he's in love with Ody and he wants to marry him.

I have a little mermaid au in my head

Odysseus can figure out what most human stuff does or is for. He is smart. But some stuff he is like WTF IS THIS?!

He 100% bribes Eurylochus into letting him look around ship wrecks with the idea that he might finding something pretty to give Ctimene

Polites enables Ody's obsession with the human world

After rescuing Penelope. Odysseus now wants even more to go on land to learn about humans and he thinks she is the prettiest girl he has ever seen.

If you think about it epic could easily be turned analog horror series.

So, as for god Odysseus do you have any fun facts about it or at least more of how their cults work?

I'm not well versed with analog horrors (I'm a bigger fan of creepy pasta/books/movies) so I can't say much about the first part.

And for god Odysseus:

- He invented wind chimes (as a source of comfort and also a simple alarm), people attach it to the window of the rooms that they want Odysseus to protect the most (like a child's bedroom), it also works as a basic alarm since trying to break in would make a noise (the wind chimes that are made as a sign for Odysseus have a hawk feather attached to it)

- His first temple was built in Ithaca by Ctimene.

- When he met Diomedes for the first time he pretended to be human to not startle the teen but he didn't realise that the young soldier was attracted to him. (Ody is super oblivious to courting until someone says bluntly what they want/feel)

- Eris is obsessed with Odysseus. She is in love with him and at first she tries to arrange the marriage between them by getting blessings from Hermes and Zeus. Hermes instantly refused and Zeus only refused because Hermes demanded it. She always chases after him and he escapes. It would be a symbol of how you don't feel safe in places full of discord and vice versa.

- Also there would be more than one myth mentioning Eris trying to be with Odysseus (In a similar way we have more than one myth about Apollo's bad luck with lovers)

- Ody chirps and makes bird noises when happy/sad/startled

- Because he was working too much (and because Ares got mad that many conflicts were stopped) Hypnos was ordered by Zeus to make Ody narcoleptic. Now Ody takes a few naps during the day.

- he gave the hedgehog its spikes. The small animal was often bullied by other creatures which made Ody sad, especially since the little being was always playing with it. Hedgehog originally had a very soft fur, it also explained how it was too scared to bite someone. And so when a satyr was using a hedgehog as a pillow to take a nap, Ody turned the fur on the back into spikes, harming satyr and scaring him away.

- bow is his special tool that he uses for his domain. The arrows when hit by someone will send a jolt/shiver that is a silent warning from upcoming danger (explaining idea of "sixth sense"/"sensing danger(having a bad feeling about something)")

For the original God Odysseus what's your version of his backstory?

I have few ideas but I'm not sure which one would be treated as the main one for the story until I have the entire plot and timeline planned.

1) Similar to the one with Poseidon where Laertes while sailing with Argonauts makes a deal that ends up with Anticlea's pregnancy.

2) God takes interest in young Odysseus' and gives him ambrosia so they could be together but Ody never wanted it.

3) Hermes has baby Ody and to make sure he isn't noticed too early by Zeus he has him raised by Laertes and Anticlea

There are a few more but those are the most planned ones.