Do you have receipts for Red allowing multiple people that are a danger to minors to stay in the discord/ sharing inappropriate content in the server? Have not seen anyone mention this and want to get the facts
Hey there, sorry for taking a while to respond, I’m sick right now and just recently woke up. If there’s any typos that’s why. I do have receipts for this, quite a few in fact, but I’ll share some important ones since honestly it’d take far too long to go through every single one. If the formatting for this ends up being wonky or I apologise, I started this on mobile and it’s buggy. If I’ve accidentally sent images grouped wrongly then it’s because tumblr is confusing, I’ll clarify any that I have in the reblogs. I also accidentally posted this twice because I’m a dumbass, sorry if you got two notifications, I’ve fixed that.
content warnings for pedophilia mention, nsfw art, mentions of rape/SA/Child SA, incest and victim blaming. If anyone has any content warnings they like to be added please let me know and I’ll get on it.
For starters there’s concerning messages of hiwi saying stuff that’s inappropriate and is directly just victim blaming Ada.
I’m sure I don’t need to explain how that’s inappropriate, and for anyone who doesn’t know, what Monty does to Ada quite literally does in fact classify as sexual assault/harassment. She doesn’t want him touching her regardless of it was just her hair, and was coerced into barking for him on her hands and knees. For added context, Monty’s spectre is a dybuk, which is quite literally a Jewish rape demon. I mention it being Jewish because I find it incredibly convenient that Monty’s nose was suddenly straight the second we were supposed to like him and that his hooked nose only returned when in a fear dream in a church. Not to mention they’ve implied the incredibly Jewish coded man to be in a position of power within a church and implied to be money hungry. Even if unintentional that’s not a good look. It’s incredibly easy to read it as such and this is why you have sensitivity readers (actual ones and not just patreons who are shown upsetting things without permission).
Which brings me to my next point; his mother!
Red themselves has directly confirmed that Montressor being raped by his mother in an intentional interpretation of his fear dream. For obvious reasons, there are numerous things that making the southern American man with a thick accent be the one with the intentional incestuous relationship with his mother is incredibly stereotypical and upsetting regardless of intention of not. Red used the patreons in stream as a test audience for the thumbs of this episode with no content warning whatsoever, and several of them are minors. They’ve also been known to purposefully avoid content warnings because it “ruins the surprise” (medical trauma with Lenore and Prospero, Gore with Pluto’s eye, Berenice being hit by a cop car or it looking like Duke was lynched when chained up, for example, which come on now there’s no other way to read that other than it being racially motivated. Even if it was unintentional flat out acting like other black people who are fans of the comic are in the wrong for pointing it out or for being upset over it being used for gore and shock value is wrong) and “it’s our job to make you uncomfortable” in response to the backlash over montrada in the beginning, which no actually, it is not your job to make people uncomfortable, it’s your job to tell a story and if you want to talk about uncomfortable topics use content warnings
And by all means please don’t interpret this as me saying that you can’t write stories with serious topics such as these, you absolutely can, and I say this as a literal CSA (child sexual abuse) survivor myself who was abused by their mother, but this isn’t the platform nor the target audience for that, nor is it being handled in a respectful manner at all. In addition why is the character who’s intended to be a CSA survivor the one whose spectre is naked with noticeable piercings that people have used to sexualise him or joke about? The fact that Ada’s fear visions all include themes of SA is disturbing enough alone because most of the time it’s just used for fan-service like Prospero’s one, which also did not have any content warnings. They can use the excuse of it being a gothic and dark story all they want, that doesn’t negate the need for content warnings.
In relation that brings us to another point, the sexualisation of characters in the comic. It’s mostly Annabel Lee who faces this but she is not the sole recipient. It’s been an issue all throughout the comic but i’ve seen it getting worse recently with the appearance of the garter belts, something which was only really put into view when she was being attacked by another man (and this is not to say Duke was in the wrong for retaliating against Annabel after what happened to him, this is not the current point, they’ve both attempted to murder each other) and has been repeatedly mentioned by red or has been encouraged to talk about. I am incapable of showing all of the evidence for this as there is just too much to show, but going back to search in the server during that time has plenty of art that’s inappropriate, including a peice by Flynn. The entire playboy bunny suit era where everyone (including red and flynn) was drawing characters in them is another issue. It’s also disturbing to me that they have Lenore call Annabel a “good girl” (a trigger word that her father uses) and sexualise it and then proceed to romanticise her behaviour in the latest chapters, because yes Lenore’s actions (including physically grabbing and intimidating Annabel) do in fact fit the bill of an abuse. Again, you can absolutely write these topics, but this is not how you do it.
For anyone who doesn’t know, playboy bunny’s were victims to utterly horrific things and there’s countless articles on this and victims coming out about it, which I’ll link some of below, I still encourage people to research more if they want. Fair enough if you didn’t know that bit but quite frankly it’s still an inappropriate outfit to be drawing them in and sharing in an all ages server. Also for gods sake maybe just don’t put the disabled woman (Lenore) in a sex slave outfit, there’s already a lost list of ableism in the comic, that just makes it worse. Pluto’s father is a downright caricature of a working class impoverished northern English man with an exaggerated accent, not to mention he’s the only person who’s physical disability is actually shown (Lenore miraculously gets better, which under no circumstances could she realistically recover that fast, nor does she have a cane. We don’t even see pluto’s eye nor is it mentioned until we see it ripped out) and it’s used for a gore/shock value scene. I and many other people with the accent and background they are poorly trying to represent find this upsetting. Please just do more research and talk to the kinds of people you’re trying to represent. Just because you didn’t intend for it to be offensive doesn’t mean it’s magically not.
Which brings me onto my next point, knowingly allowing inappropriate art. I’ll keep this short as I admittedly cannot find all of my screenshots at this moment and I’m still searching, but there’s been countless times where I and many others have risen an eyebrow at some things sent in fan gallery as it’s borderline soft porn or fetish art at this point. Here are a few. (Apologies for the first few images, I can’t find exact screenshots of it being sent in fan gallery, I just have the art, but I do know it was sent in fan gallery. (these people should not have been encouraged or allowed by rnf to post this here, they should know better.)
(Suggestive art below cut, also more assorted evidence down there too)
There was also the time Red insisted JK Rowling wasn’t racist for naming a character Kingsley shacklebolt when told directly by a black person that it was indeed racist. JK Rowling is publicly, racist, anti-semetic, a flat out holocaust denier and a raging transphobe who regularly donates money to organisations who want trans people like myself and many others to suffer. I do not have the room in this main post to show the pictures, I will reblog with them. If I’ve accidentally included them in another group of pictures apologies, website tumblr is a pain.
There was also the incident in which red sent an anonymous confessions page hate mail. They admitted to this publicly and have said in private that they’re convinced they were just sending themselves asks. Regardless of how tame or awful they think their ask was it’s still hate Mail. Again, I do not have enough space for these images so I will reblog them if anyone wants that, though personally considering Red already flat out admitted to sending it in public that’s already enough evidence to prove they did it.
Next there’s various inappropriate things red or others have said. I could go on for days but here are a few examples and am still digging them out as we speak and my photo albums are notoriously messy.
Unfortunately there’s also this below that I’ve been made aware of and honestly I’m just genuinely confused. I don’t exist in this fandom, I’ve posted maybe a few fanfics months ago, entirely silent in between and after, and literally had not spoken in the discord for several months (and even then if I had it was a few random messages). There is no “parasocial obsession” to speak of, there is no harassment and stalking as I literally do not talk to them (actively avoid it, actually) and am not part of the fandom or discord anymore, I haven’t been for a long time. I don’t talk to red, they flat out make me uncomfortable. If you wish for proof on how little I’ve interacted with the discord before I was banned then please do search my username on there. I have not spoken in patreon spaces or to the patreons either as the vast majority of them also make me uncomfortable. I was barely even in the fandom for a year and that alone is highly debatable because I haven’t been active for most of it. The only reason I am mentioning any of this now is because they’ve gone too far.
The only time I have actually spoken to Red other than in passing occasionally like practically everyone else in the server has is when Red themselves has shown up in my dm’s unprompted (which is incredibly unprofessional by the way, you have mods for a reason, use them) to ban me for what I can only assume was suspected leaking as I used to be in the patreon myself. Except they refused to share any evidence whatsoever and told me “assume I know everything” (which is a literal abuse tactic, by the way, abusers say this to scare their victims for a reason) and “you just want to know how much I know.”
I was in a whole ass different country and was asleep during this. I did not know what was going on and was accused of trying to dig for information. If you have genuine actual real proof I did something then by all means sure, genuinely if you have proof of anything I’d gladly take the fall for it, but that still doesn’t excuse the actions and behaviour of the people involved, nor does it excuse knowingly allowing a pedophile back into your server. You can’t seriously say and do these kinds of things and not expect people to share them. I’m sorry Red feels upset about this but quite frankly it’s not about their feelings anymore. The second you make a space you claim to be safe for minors with yourself in a position of power you immediately put their safety over your own personal feelings. You do not take these kinds of risks when you already have evidence. It’s not worth it and it’s wrong. You put people in danger.
Below is the direct message I received from Red a few months ago, one of the names mentioned has been blurred because they are a minor and I am uncomfortable dragging them into this. The other name mentioned also hasn’t done anything other than express discomfort with the montrada situation. She wrote a vent fic far before montrada was even a thing in canon and people have regularly held it against her.
And for extra screenshots because I find the irony fucking palpable considering the overall situation
I’m disappointed but sadly not surprised that people are still defending Red and Flynn (hiwi too) when they’ve been flat out given proof, there are several posts with it and I will gladly give anyone who asks links to them. Victims shouldn’t have to fight tooth and nail to be respected and believed in the first place, the evidence that they let a pedophile back in and knew what they had done should be enough to worry about alone and it’s incredibly disheartening to see people defend these actions just as much as it’s disheartening to see all the people who’ve been hurt by them.
Regardless of how or if Red apologises these things are personally unforgivable to me. You are never obligated to forgive someone just because they apologised. You are allowed to say no, it is your own choice to accept or refuse it. I just hope to shed more light on the things that’ve happened so people can make an informed choice.
I do not give a goddamn fuck about what Red and Flynn say about me anymore. You’ve already proven that you’ll willingly lie to make yourselves look better. They’re awful people who make me feel uncomfortable and I’m done giving them the attention they want.
I apologise to anyone who has suffered in this situation, you do not deserve this.
FINALLY FINISHED
Animation class is great but my hhaaaaaands
I do feel that my ending was rushed; If I had some time for after effects I would make the end rumble for some nice visual audio just to really grip that anger. Overall, I'm happy enough lol
Hello! Firstly, thank you for speaking out. I am very relieved there's now a conclusion to this misunderstanding, and I really appreciate your honesty.
And all I can say is that it wasn't your fault, Raven, not at all. Just unfortunate misunderstandings and miscommunications that were out of your control. Who would've thought a username would account for that
But you came through, so thank you again
@gothwineaunts
Hello, Red, I just think you should be informed of this, despite having withdrawn from your moderating responsibilities. I hope this can be of use to resolve this situation, as I think a genuine apology is due(maybe a dm to the young fellow mentioned in the original post would be appreciated).
And in case you are thinking of Raven Nerd's case here, I do not think they are at any fault and should be left as is. Pinterest is a very chaotic media from what I've seen and I would be lying if I denied I hadn't been shown some unfamiliar nevermore art from time to time.
Thank you for your patience.
I was going to keep away from all the Nevermore drama originally, however somethings new had just come to my awareness, and i just cant anymore Cw: very aggravating texts
This is my friend/source asking the person(who was under Red's interrogation) for their Dm's with Red.
The purple one is my friend, the blue and yellow censors is the person giving us the information.
Here are the Dm's: again, cw: for aggravating texts
Not only pressuring an obvious child here, Red-- you have the audacity to ask why they think they have "control in the conversation?" and should you "pardon their attitude?" If feels so egotistical, that you're on a constant authority high.
This and the time you shut down anyone who asked about the situation of those who were banned for apparently no reason other than being a suspected alt-- Your aggression and foremost, above all apparently, sassy attitude to a group who you're(I assume) aware are minors, is downright just gross. If i would be so frank, it feels majorly like an ego stunt than anything else.
This display of witch-hunt-- the blatant disregard to this child's mental safety here, and their just panicky responses. Why ask in the first place if all you're going to do is force your assumptions on this kid? Playing "bad cop" is and will never be the correct reaction when it comes to trying to figure out an uncertain situation(even with how you sound so sure, you still came to ask).
And honestly, I am even more enraged by the fact just a few days prior about the Crimson's Unbanning argument you chastised the discord audience about "witch hunting," despite acknowledging you know less than those actually included(who have spoken out, and whom were subsequently banned. Such as .milo, a victim of Crimson) (not saying I am for witch-hunting)
All I have to say, Red, is personally I find the more I learn of you, the more I grow a certain distaste of you. I really wish i had a semblance of hope that really, truly wasn't you. But hells, with how much I've seen from you...
and the poor kid. All because of some paid-for art(that most definitely is on Pinterest)
@gothwineaunts
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An old little comic of @sporksanwhich's Ghost Hunter Au, do check it out! (Please read left to right ^-^)
Defibrated ruh roh
Lennabel kiss and cuddles?pls
Gotchu homie
Bingo!
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full context credits to BlacknedSoul on Discord
I am not proud of the fact I rushed this, and it blatantly shows ;-;
This is what is produced on purely vibes and three minutes of sleep. WAHOO
I genuinely need to post this, it's been haunting my art file every time I open it up.
I fear for my life
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