If You're Talking People Not Seeing The Difference Between Character And CC, Then Why Don't We Bring

if you're talking people not seeing the difference between character and CC, then why don't we bring up Martyn getting death threats for playing a villain. I think the problem you're trying to talk about is more universal and is mainly happening outside of Tumblr (reddit and youtube comments). the OP of the post politely corrected you on the things you just assumed or attributed to them from other people, and you just disregard it all to talk about how they're actually an evil liar who is responsible for Scott's mental health or smth. You're trying to put your hate of this person in a pretty wrapping paper, thinking that makes you a better person. Why do you even think that negativity will kill negativity? If you were actually talking to a massive cc!Scott hater, what do you want to do? Bully them? A hateful mob will do more harm to the CC in question. No one wants to be a part of the "toxic stans". You're just averting all the potential Scott supporters by focusing on the haters. And Scott isn't a child, you can't protect him from people going into his chat or private messages and saying mean things. What's more, trolls love attention, and you're just handing it to them on a silver platter. Instead of crushing the floor underneath your own feet, it's better to uphold the foundation by building a healthy and strong community. There will always be haters and there will always be divergence in opinions, you can't control that. So make a safe space for yourself and others, be the person you want to be, accept people trying to grow.

I would talk about Martyn. I just have been focused on Scott. Martyn receiving death threats is awful. Anyone receiving death threats is awful, especially if they haven’t done anything to hurt anyone. My focus being on one person in particular doesn’t mean that I’m ignorant to it happening to other people. I’ve just noticed that it happens to Scott a lot when he’s doing the exact same things that everyone else in the series is doing and that many of them are praised for.

Obviously the problem is more universal than Tumblr??? I have never said that Tumblr is the only problem.

I responded to OP politely and explained why I feel the way that I feel about the situation. Disregarding is not the same as disagreeing. I didn’t call OP an “evil liar” nor did I say they were responsible for Scott’s mental health. I said that referring to a real moment as a “character moment” doesn’t excuse removing the context of a friend teasing a friend and doesn’t excuse villainizing the person. Scott usually isn’t playing a character. He’s just having fun with his friends, and a lot of people like to take that out of context. The same goes for Martyn. And Pearl. And Scar. And Gem. And Cleo. As for the “mental health” part, I would rarely say that one person on the internet is responsible for another’s mental health. I would say that making hurtful posts towards someone who has done nothing wrong with thousands of other people is a pretty fucking awful thing to do to someone. When I said that these posts are “affecting the creators”, I did not mean that they have depression over these posts. I meant that they have stated that they have avoided teaming with certain people because they get criticized for it. Scar especially has been talking about how frustrated he is with the fandom being overly critical of the creators.

I hope you understand that “analyzing Scott’s character” and then only referring to moments when Scott was distinctly not playing a character is the exact same as “putting your hate for this person in a pretty little wrapping paper”.

If I were actually talking to a massive cc!Scott hater, I would have to see what they have to say. If they’re targeting Scott for things that everyone else in the series does and being playful with his friends and they’re taking his teasing out of context, then I would point it out. If they’re just not a fan of Scott’s style or content, that’s a different thing entirely. That’s none of my concern.

My focus isn’t entirely on Scott haters? I have loads of posts that aren’t about Scott haters. If you think that me explaining that a post is hurtful is equivalent to me calling one person responsible for someone else’s mental health, then I don’t know why you think that I’m responsible for Scott’s whole fandom.

I know that Scott isn’t a child. Adults deserve to be defended too, especially when they haven’t done anything wrong. The main problem that I tend to try to address is that Scott gets targeted for things that his friends are praised for. In particular, a lot of people villainize him for teasing Jimmy, but those same people praise Grian, Joel, Martyn, etc. for the exact same thing. That’s clear homophobia. Scott doesn’t have to be a child in order for me to be disappointed with people taking his teasing out of context but leaving everyone else’s teasing out of context because they’re stereotyping the confident gay guy. In the case that referring to, I was referring to a post that was criticizing Scott’s “character” during a non-character moment and wasn’t addressing that Joel, who they were defending, was equally “guilty”.

Nurturing a community comes with tackling some issues within the community. I have lots of posts that bolster the community, and I have some posts that criticize people who are being horrible to some of the content creators. Pretending that all I do is be mean to people isn’t helping anyone, including yourself.

A divergence in opinions isn’t the problem. The problem is that a lot of people are being terribly critical of the creators and are trying to hide it by referring to real interactions without any kind of roleplay as “character moments”. That’s not a divergence in opinions. That’s taking a normal interaction out of the context that it was between friends and criticizing a real person for a decision that they clearly made out of character. It’s one thing to see someone playing a character and comment on the character’s actions. It’s another to see two people having fun as themselves and rebuke one of them despite the obvious friendliness of the interaction.

I am not going to be a safe space for people who are mean, intentionally or not, or outright cruel to people who haven’t done anything wrong, especially if they’re taking a friendly exchange out of context. That is not my obligation. If you’re going to be mean, you need to expect me to be mean right back. If you are genuinely trying to grow, that is a different story entirely. Most people I’m criticizing have no intent on changing their mind, and I’m going to be equally stubborn. I’m not going to create a space that’s passive to unfounded accusations. Please don’t ask me to tolerate the intolerant.

I get a little aggressive when I feel like someone has made unjustified accusations. This is probably not going to change any time soon. Criticizing the lack of fairness in accusing innocent people of horrible things is a fundamental part of who I am, for better or worse, whether you like it or not, and sometimes I go a little overboard. I apologize if you feel like I was over the top, but you’re going to have to deal with the fact that it isn’t going to change. I am not a perfect person, and so doing what I think is right may not always go well. Sometimes I make mistakes and go a little too far. That does not change my beliefs surrounding the issue.

Bringing attention to trolls is bad, sure. I believe that most of the people I am addressing genuinely believe that they’re in the right. A lot of Scott hate tends to come from internalized homophobia. People need to get that in check. Sometimes that means being direct about how much of a problem it is. If you don’t agree with me, then you can go your own way about it.

If you don’t like the space that I’ve created, then you don’t have to be here. Quite frankly, I’ve never expected any of my posts to get more than 10 notes. You can block me if you want. I’m sure lots of people have, and I have blocked lots of people just for mostly making posts about things I’m not interested in without tagging them. I don’t have to be apart of your community. It’s okay to block people to tailor your feed. You can also do this, I suppose. It’s the internet. Just don’t threaten people.

I hope this clarifies some things!