If We Actually Get A SOC Spinoff, It Better Open Up With Joost. You Don’t Understand How Much I Need

Things i absolutely NEED to see in the potential Six of Crows spin-off:

1. Kaz and Wylan falling through Van Eck's ceiling

2. Alys van Eck singing 24/7 and the crows doing absolutely everything to stop her

3. "Open your danm eyes, Inej"

4. Nina raising the dead to catch Inej in the net

5. Colm Fahey being a tired dad to a group of murderous children

Feel free to add stuff ^^

i'd like to thank freddy carter's big blue eyes and acrobatic eyebrows for their contribution to the "stay in ketterdam" scene in the show. you can practically hear kaz thinking you inej, you through them (and honorable mention to his jawline that could cut glass)

TSH hot takes 🔥

-Julian was actually a dick. He isolated and groomed vulnerable students (do you think it's a coincidence that every single member of the greek class had a difficult home life?) into thinking that these very outdated concepts of love and power were good for them. He compared their dangerous behaviour to that of ancient gods. Then, rather than face the consequence of his actions and take accountability, he left when it mattered.

-Charles was an asshole, but he's not a scapegoat. You cannot blame all the problems on Charles, he was an addict as a result of his trauma. He needed help. This doesn't excuse him from his actions, but it explains them. At the beginning of the book he physically could not bring himself to hurt Camilla. He's not a "bad" person. He's a sick person.

-Bunny didn't deserve to die, but he was also probably going to condemn the group at some point. He didn't just die for no reason. (Believing that Bunny's death was truly pointless also means believing that Henry was an actual psychopath who killed his friend for shits and giggles.)

-Judy, Cloke and Sophie ended up the happiest. That is literally the moral of the book. Judy wasn't all tortured when Richard didn't want to hang out with her, she shook it off and kept living her life. That's literally the point.

-Richard was never in love with Camilla. He loved the idea of her, but didn't see her as a person. Because of this specific dynamic and the fact the Richard is narrating, we know nothing about her actual personality. Anything he says can be disputed, and a lot of it contradicts itself.

-Francis is not blameless or unproblematic, but of the group he probably had the best intentions. Most of his behaviour that can be interpreted as creepy can be chalked up to Richard's internalized homophobia (remember, everything is told from his point of view, and Francis was a gay man in the 80's) When you look objectively at what Francis did, you see that he made a pass, got rejected, then dropped it and moved on. There is (i think) one more attempt made later on in the book, and that is furthered by Richard and only interrupted when Charles shows up.

-Henry may be the metaphorical representative of death when talking about the book, but in the narrative it's important to remember he's also just a person. Otherwise everything he does seems beyond question, and he's assigned this label as just "evil." He was 21!! Literally still a kid

-There were not good or bad characters. The reason they hit so hard is because each of them are so layered. They all have good traits and bad traits, but calling one "evil" takes away their humanity and dismisses their complexity that makes them so great.

i *might* just be on episode 6 season 2.

Remember how after season one of Shadow and Bone we were all so Freddy Carter deprived that we binged all of Free Rein…. or was that just me?

“he’s so kaz-coded.” no, he’s just an intj. we are brooding and hot and here to win. you love us.

You know I think an underrated theme in SOC is that, the adults have ruined the future of the next generation. They have created an inhumane environment that serves only them. They've crushed and wrung out the lives of the weaker and the new, keeping them desperate, subjugated, exploited, and dead. Pekka Rollins, Tante Heleen, Jan Van Eck, Jarl Brum, these are our villains.

But Six of Crows also says that these circumstances have manufactured a much darker and tougher individual than these people can imagine. While the older generation are content to rest on their laurels and their ill gotten easy lives, their juniors are sharpening their pain into cruel and effective tools, with a drive that someone on top simply cannot understand.

Idk, I think it's an interesting and empowering (if not subversively harsh) message for its core audience as a YA novel.

Imagine Ketterdam centuries in the future, where all six crows have become saints, and their shenanigans have too many references sin history books to be written off as fairytales.

Kaz Brekker, the Saint of thieves who takes pity on the lost souls and evokes power into the hearts of crooks.

Inej Ghafa the Saint of the abused, holding a protective hand over those who share her story and causing slavers great misfortune.

Jesper Fahey, the Saint of treasure whose name those whisper at gambling tables for good luck and is said to guard all zowa.

Wylan Hendriks, a Saint of runaways who watches over the shaken souls and bruised children who slip out of their bedroom windows to start new lives.

Nina Zenik, the Saint of lovers who couples leave offerings to in hopes that their love will be eternal, no matter what.

Matthias Helvar, the Saint of soldiers who younglings going to war pray to for mercy, and known to protect Grisha when called upon.

I need a six of crows and crooked kingdom audio book with each chapter pov narrated by the actors in the show RIGHT NOW please and thankyou

FINISHED BUNNY!!!

Ok so honestly i didn't cry, and I'm happy she didn't kill them but killed max instead. She took away what they desired the most, what they were destroying themselves for. And she freed herself contemporary. Also it might be me projecting but at some point this book was so trans coded when she drew all the parallels between herself and Max. ||

It's all in the simbolysm i think, this book is not about revenge, actually Sam is angry at the world for most of the book, by killing him. She killed a part of her that she needed to let go off. Or maybe to make peace with. Wich was also what made the Bunnies seek her out and hate her because they couldn't make her like them.

Like we never get an actual description of Samantha, but then she says that she sees her face in Max and to me then she just looks like max, maybe with her hair longer. Max is a mix of all her ex lovers yet it feels a purely aesthetic thing, a very "I don't know if i want to kiss him or be him."

|| I think that her blockage with writing is like a symptom that something is wrong. Because she is not focused on actually writing, she is writing Ava, she is creating her as she goes and therefore she can't write anything else. When her and Ava get back together she is immediately able to write again because Ava is a complete character now that can make her own decisions (like thell max to leave) and so she can actually go back to writing.

||There is also the fact that she doesn't have her narrative language. Every other girl has a narrative language, that they exhaust and re use to the nausea, because they are too scared of being anything else (another commentary on genred and their use extreme of femininity) while Sam doesn't have a language like that, she doesn't have a comfort subject that she can keep using to hide the fact that she doesn't know what to write, because she has no identity, no home, no face. She is a blank page and that's why the other girls immediately want to grab her. Because that way they can write her as they want, eliminating an adversary and erasing any changes of self descrivery on her part.

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